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Re: How is this racist? [Re: Sprung & Rusty] #6785770
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Why does the past success of the country have to include racism as part of the success? Make America great again means to me that we created so much we were even able to surplus and give to others who needed it more than us. It means we could have almost anything we wanted for Sunday dinner, at that dinner every night. It means we all get the opportunity to learn and earn and fulfill goals like home ownership. I get it but seems others want to dwell in the negative and wallow in suffering they didn’t even have to experience. America IS a great country and with the right collective thought process and determination it will remain. How a message on a hat can be racist is beyond me unless blantantly written.

Re: How is this racist? [Re: Sprung & Rusty] #6785772
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You know boco I’ve seen quite a few shows on the First Nations network about good ole Canada’s opposition to native success...so would it be safe for me to “feel” that anything with a Canadian flag logo on it represents racism? I kinda feel that way after seeing all things taken away from indigenous peoples even in modern times.

Re: How is this racist? [Re: Sprung & Rusty] #6785774
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Because your past reality was not their past reality.
Native people are their own nations they have their own symbols.
Most use the maple leaf with a native warrior imposed on it as their flag,so I dont believe they have an issue with the maple leaf.Perhaps the union jack,but that is no longer our flag.

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Re: How is this racist? [Re: Boco] #6785777
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Originally Posted by Boco
Because your past reality was not their past reality.


Some of my Irish ancestors might disagree. But I don't hear the Irish whining today.

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Re: How is this racist? [Re: Sprung & Rusty] #6785779
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People who can't move beyond their feelings of victim-hood will remain victims. There are many examples of successful minorities in this country. Unfortunately we have a political party in this country who cares more about power than lifting people up. They are promoting failure for their own selfish reasons.

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Re: How is this racist? [Re: Mike in A-town] #6785780
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Guess you havent been to Ireland.
Not long ago we were blowing up the british soldiers until they left.

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Re: How is this racist? [Re: Sprung & Rusty] #6785782
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Anyway your view of the hat and what it means is irrelevant to those with a different historical reality.


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Re: How is this racist? [Re: Sprung & Rusty] #6785783
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This guy has a red hat , must be a racist ,


Re: How is this racist? [Re: Sprung & Rusty] #6785785
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Whose that uncle tom?


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Re: How is this racist? [Re: Sprung & Rusty] #6785787
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Anyway if one lets a hat or symbol dictate their thoughts they will fail at life.

Re: How is this racist? [Re: Sprung & Rusty] #6785791
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Funny story, I work with a black guy. He gave us all black names, mine is Leroy. Is he a racist? I think it’s kinda funny and so does he. We eat lunch together. He doesn’t have a car so he rides in my truck. He says he likes riding with me, it makes him feel like a “redneck” and he says he wants to do all the redneck stuff with me, “you know like huntin an fishin”.
Man people are just nuts...arguing over a hat and how they interpret its message. Poor hockey player, bet he’s a good guy.

Re: How is this racist? [Re: Sprung & Rusty] #6785792
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Look,it symbolizes the past to them which was racist.It does not symbolize that to you.
How arrogant is it for you to tell them what it does or does not symbolize to them.You are not them.Your reality is different.


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Re: How is this racist? [Re: Boco] #6785793
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Originally Posted by Boco
Whose that uncle tom?


No Boco, that's a man who wants a better life for his family than drugs, violence, and government hand outs.


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Re: How is this racist? [Re: Sprung & Rusty] #6785795
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You asked why some people see the hat and slogan as racist-I explained it to yall 4 times now in plain english-You either dont like the answer or dont understand.
Anyway-thats all folks.Tired of repeating myself.

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Re: How is this racist? [Re: Boco] #6785796
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Originally Posted by Boco
Look,it symbolizes the past to them which was racist.It does not symbolize that to you.
How arrogant is it for you to tell them what it does or does not symbolize to them.You are not them.Your reality is different.

Almost as arrogant as you thinking you're " their " spokesman , don't ya think ?



Re: How is this racist? [Re: Sprung & Rusty] #6785797
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I never claimed to be anyones spokesman so you are way out in left field there.I explained why some people see the slogan and hat as a symbol of racism.
Ask the ones who see it that way if you dont believe me.

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Re: How is this racist? [Re: Sprung & Rusty] #6785801
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Let's face it.... and then forget about it.... Those that yell RACIST the most are the BIGGEST racists... like the dems always do... watch this hand over here while I try and beat you over the head with my other hand. Just ask them in what closet they hand their white hood and robe... they are all KKK in one way or another.

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Re: How is this racist? [Re: Sprung & Rusty] #6785808
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I think their point of view is skewed. Make it great again was really meant to stir the positive of the past into the present, not the negative. Some people just can’t see a great thing I guess...just fartin around life dwelling on something I’m willing to bet they’ve never been a part of.

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Re: How is this racist? [Re: Sprung & Rusty] #6785809
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There is nothing wrong with the "Make America Great" slogan or cap. I think its a great slogan. I think that people who see that slogan associate it with self-identified white supremacists who support Trump and tout the Slogan. Some instances that have led people to believe Trump is “racist” are his previous comments about Mexican immigrants and his slow response to neo-Nazis rallying in Charlottesville, Virginia. However, there are good people who support Trump and likewise, I think there are good people who support Sanders.

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If your ever in the hood you should come over boco...bring some lebattes or some puppers and some Canadian whiskey and we can sit next to the fire and talk or argue about beaver, the Cheeto and Trudy. I like the way you trap and you’re kinda fun to argue with.

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