Re: Opinions
[Re: M.Magis]
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01/21/20 06:53 PM
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here in Ohio, setting a trap within a foot of a public trail commonly used by people walking their dogs would get you a ticket as well. Is there any place on earth including private, posted land where we trappers can set traps and not have worry about trespassing people and their unleashed, not under control dogs stepping in them and we're once again the bad guys ? If there is, I have not found it yet. Part of the reason I hung up my 500+ 1.5 coil springs and gave up fox trapping. w
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Re: Opinions
[Re: walleyed]
#6738977
01/21/20 07:38 PM
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here in Ohio, setting a trap within a foot of a public trail commonly used by people walking their dogs would get you a ticket as well. Is there any place on earth including private, posted land where we trappers can set traps and not have worry about trespassing people and their unleashed, not under control dogs stepping in them and we're once again the bad guys ? If there is, I have not found it yet. Part of the reason I hung up my 500+ 1.5 coil springs and gave up fox trapping. w quitter...….lol
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Re: Opinions
[Re: canebrake]
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01/22/20 01:50 AM
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Scout1
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"To set a trap where it would be likely to INJURE persons, dogs, stock, or fowl.". Was his dog injured?
------------------------------------- DJT & MTG in 2024!
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Re: Opinions
[Re: lonewolf308]
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01/22/20 07:19 AM
01/22/20 07:19 AM
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Posts: 173 Buggs Island, Va
lonewolf308
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Guy thanks for the support advice and comments! It is a prepayable offense so I'm not paying for a lawyer. I will try my best to fight it in court just out of principle. I quit hunting years ago and found trapping as a new outlet. To have to live in fear that if someone finds my trap I will be in legal trouble is ridiculous. The info on WMA I believe will help a lot in court and I'll keep you guys updated it's March 9th
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Re: Opinions
[Re: lonewolf308]
#6739425
01/22/20 07:35 AM
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Posts: 1,531 Missouri
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Typical Mr. Greenjeans BS.
Get the US out of the UN and the UN out of the US.
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Re: Opinions
[Re: lonewolf308]
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01/22/20 09:24 AM
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Posts: 2,154 Tug Hill, NY
Redknot
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Guy thanks for the support advice and comments! It is a prepayable offense so I'm not paying for a lawyer. I will try my best to fight it in court just out of principle. I quit hunting years ago and found trapping as a new outlet. To have to live in fear that if someone finds my trap I will be in legal trouble is ridiculous. The info on WMA I believe will help a lot in court and I'll keep you guys updated it's March 9th Again, contact the Wildlife Manager for the Region of that particular WMA and explain that you were engaged in a Wildlife Dependent Activity. The warden was walking his dog - a non-wildlife dependent activity and chose to ticket you. The Wildlife Regional Manager should contact the warden and school him on uses on WMAs. Request that he does this for you. A local judge is NOT going to know the uses specified by the US Fish and Wildlife Service for WMAs receiving Federal Funds. Call that Regional Wildlife Manager TODAY!!!
~Illegitimi Non Carborundum~
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Re: Opinions
[Re: Redknot]
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01/22/20 09:29 AM
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Guy thanks for the support advice and comments! It is a prepayable offense so I'm not paying for a lawyer. I will try my best to fight it in court just out of principle. I quit hunting years ago and found trapping as a new outlet. To have to live in fear that if someone finds my trap I will be in legal trouble is ridiculous. The info on WMA I believe will help a lot in court and I'll keep you guys updated it's March 9th Again, contact the Wildlife Manager for the Region of that particular WMA and explain that you were engaged in a Wildlife Dependent Activity. The warden was walking his dog - a non-wildlife dependent activity and chose to ticket you. The Wildlife Regional Manager should contact the warden and school him on uses on WMAs. Request that he does this for you. A local judge is NOT going to know the uses specified by the US Fish and Wildlife Service for WMAs receiving Federal Funds. Call that Regional Wildlife Manager TODAY!!! I would^^^
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Re: Opinions
[Re: lonewolf308]
#6798514
03/11/20 04:43 PM
03/11/20 04:43 PM
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Posts: 173 Buggs Island, Va
lonewolf308
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Ok so update! I went to court Monday for the ticket along with the pet laws on the hunting land and some pics of the location and my trap. The Judge dismissed the charge and said it was not in a likely area to be a danger to animals or humans being it was a half mile or more from the parking area. The down side was then looked at me and said I guess you'll think twice before putting your traps there again?? I told him I have given up trapping with foothold traps because of this and it had left a bad taste in my mouth. The Warden was nice and was accurate in relaying info about the incident. He did how ever tick me off when he told the judge my traps weren't placed anywhere near where I'd hope to catch a animal, that they were just placed all over. So for all you guys trapping near fields you must be doing it wrong. According to the Va state game wardens you trap in the woods and woods only! SMH...just glad it's over.
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Re: Opinions
[Re: walleyed]
#6798527
03/11/20 04:55 PM
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Ryan McLeod
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here in Ohio, setting a trap within a foot of a public trail commonly used by people walking their dogs would get you a ticket as well. Is there any place on earth including private, posted land where we trappers can set traps and not have worry about trespassing people and their unleashed, not under control dogs stepping in them and we're once again the bad guys ? If there is, I have not found it yet. Part of the reason I hung up my 500+ 1.5 coil springs and gave up fox trapping. w That's how it is here. I caught a dog once and the owner pulled 3 traps in the area. Brought them to the warden and threw them on the desk and complained that "someone" had set these on the outskirts of town. The warden asked if the dog was on a leash which it wasn't. the warden then asked if the dog owner had my permission to remove the traps which was answered with NO. So the warden told the owner to keep the dog on a leash and if she ever tampered with someones traps again she would be fined.
If you take care of the land the land will take care of you
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Re: Opinions
[Re: lonewolf308]
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03/11/20 05:16 PM
03/11/20 05:16 PM
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Getting There
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Ok so update! I went to court Monday for the ticket along with the pet laws on the hunting land and some pics of the location and my trap. The Judge dismissed the charge and said it was not in a likely area to be a danger to animals or humans being it was a half mile or more from the parking area. The down side was then looked at me and said I guess you'll think twice before putting your traps there again?? I told him I have given up trapping with foothold traps because of this and it had left a bad taste in my mouth. The Warden was nice and was accurate in relaying info about the incident. He did how ever tick me off when he told the judge my traps weren't placed anywhere near where I'd hope to catch a animal, that they were just placed all over. So for all you guys trapping near fields you must be doing it wrong. According to the Va state game wardens you trap in the woods and woods only! SMH...just glad it's over. Glad things turned out in your favor, now you know why the CO is a CO and not a trapper. Still a pain in the rear!
Last edited by Getting There; 03/11/20 05:16 PM.
To Old U.S. Army 60-63 SGT.
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Re: Opinions
[Re: M.Magis]
#6798827
03/11/20 09:03 PM
03/11/20 09:03 PM
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Posts: 3,446 Houghton Lake, MI
strike2x
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Without knowing the regulations, all we can do is speculate. But with our regulations here in Ohio, setting a trap within a foot of a public trail commonly used by people walking their dogs would get you a ticket as well. Is this a regulation or can we just call it common sense....
Last edited by strike2x; 03/11/20 09:04 PM. Reason: Misspelling
Wish I had more time to trap....
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Re: Opinions
[Re: lonewolf308]
#6798890
03/11/20 09:54 PM
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Joined: May 2010
Posts: 2,686 Alaska
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I find out of sight out of mind is a good policy when trapping.
you can vote your way into socialism, but you will have to shoot your way out.
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Re: Opinions
[Re: Redknot]
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03/11/20 09:55 PM
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[quote=Redknot
You need to contact your DNR responsible for the management of the particular WMA Immediately. You were engaged in a Wildlife Related Activity on a WMA which receives Wildlife Restoration Funds (Pitman Robertson). Your activity is absolutely covered as a primary use on a WMA. Walking a dog, whether leased or not, it is referred to as a Non-wildlife depended activity, which never takes precedent over a Wildlife Related Activity. Doing so can be considered a divergence of funds and your State could be jeopardizing Federal Funding.
Like I said, you need to contact the Wildlife Manager for the Region of that particular WMA and explain the situation.
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Thanks for this ammo!
you can vote your way into socialism, but you will have to shoot your way out.
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