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Re: Corona mess over hyped
[Re: jbyrd63]
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I seen on the news tonight that people are being scammed left and right,and a lot of companys are being hacked because people working from home on their own computers are vulnerable.
Somebodys already making big money on this debaucle.
I bet lots of the government gravy meant for people who need it will be diverted all over the world to the scammers.
Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
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Re: Corona mess over hyped
[Re: jbyrd63]
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03/22/20 01:13 AM
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The title of this thread is Corona over hyped. I guess we'll see who is right and who eats crow in a couple weeks. I know I have changed my mind in the last two weeks.
If you live under a rock in the middle of no where you probably have time and space to conjure up whatever conspiracy theory you can dream up, but for those who live in congested areas who have loved ones that are in that "compromised" bracket, things seems a little more real and concerning.
Kind of like when they have wolf meetings in Bloomington, MN. No wolves in Bloomington, MN so those folks don't have a clue what's really happening where there are wolves.
My Girlfriend works for Mayo and keeps up on it from inside. The docs who are working on it down there are plenty worried (good enough for me) and have canceled their vacations into August now. But I suppose they are part of the big conspiracy, too. dunno.
Personally whenever someone cries govt conspiracy, I hear the same thing as when people cry racism today. All I hear is I have nothing factual to base anything on so I'll scream one of the two. Nobody takes anyone who cries either seriously and we think you're nuts.
And no I don't trust our govt...However, I have worked for the govt for 22 years now and am fully aware something like this virus is far far past what the govt is capable of thinking up and implementing.
We are now seeing real people we know getting it. Stay tuned. I hope the experts are wrong (as I thought a couple weeks ago).
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Re: Corona mess over hyped
[Re: jbyrd63]
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03/22/20 01:53 AM
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Just because the virus is real doesn't rule out a government conspiracy.
You only live once, so get over it!
Tactics may change but the goal remains the same.
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Re: Corona mess over hyped
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03/22/20 07:26 AM
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Yukon254, you said, "What I dont understand is why we didnt see any of this with H1N1. Am I missing something? There were over 60-million Americans infected with it after all, and over 12,000 died....We are no where near those numbers yet and the whole world is on lockdown and entire industries are going to go broke."
COVID-19 is nothing like H1N1. It is far more contagious and deadly than H1N1. On average, each person infected with COVID-19 will pass it on to 2-2.5 other people. H1N1 patients passed it on to 1.2-1.6 others. The US mortality rate for H1N1 was about .02% The worldwide mortality rate for COVID-19 is 3.4 %, or about 170 times more deadly than H1N1. At that rate, if 60 million Americans contract COVID-19, there will be over 2 million deaths. That's about 1 out of every 165 people in the US.
I'm not making any of this up. All of these numbers are easily verified with just a bit of research.
No, we're nowhere near those numbers yet, but we will be if we do nothing. Go back and read through this thread. The folks down-playing the threat posed by this virus are wrong. I just hope that none of them end up being dead wrong.
The more drastic measures we take now, the fewer people will die. The key word here is NOW. These numbers will go down as more get tested . The mortality rate will go down as more people survive it knowing they have it.
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Re: Corona mess over hyped
[Re: Calvin]
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03/22/20 07:39 AM
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The title of this thread is Corona over hyped. I guess we'll see who is right and who eats crow in a couple weeks. I know I have changed my mind in the last two weeks.
If you live under a rock in the middle of no where you probably have time and space to conjure up whatever conspiracy theory you can dream up, but for those who live in congested areas who have loved ones that are in that "compromised" bracket, things seems a little more real and concerning.
Kind of like when they have wolf meetings in Bloomington, MN. No wolves in Bloomington, MN so those folks don't have a clue what's really happening where there are wolves.
My Girlfriend works for Mayo and keeps up on it from inside. The docs who are working on it down there are plenty worried (good enough for me) and have canceled their vacations into August now. But I suppose they are part of the big conspiracy, too. dunno.
Personally whenever someone cries govt conspiracy, I hear the same thing as when people cry racism today. All I hear is I have nothing factual to base anything on so I'll scream one of the two. Nobody takes anyone who cries either seriously and we think you're nuts.
And no I don't trust our govt...However, I have worked for the govt for 22 years now and am fully aware something like this virus is far far past what the govt is capable of thinking up and implementing.
We are now seeing real people we know getting it. Stay tuned. I hope the experts are wrong (as I thought a couple weeks ago). Calvin I have ONE major question for you . The "loved ones that are compromised" were they not COMPROMISED even by the flu? Tell you what I think will shake out from this. 1 As soon as BIG PHARMA can figure out a vaccine the fear will go away . 2. NO WHERE near the number of people will die from this than the flu EACH YEAR. 3 If 80% (their statements) can get it and not know it can't be too deadly. 4 None if any "HEALTHY " people will die from it. I will almost be willing to say that more people will die from choking this year (5051 last year ) than this bug when its all done. The number of deaths is REALLY tilted toward fear mongering. IN KY as of yesterday we have had 3 deaths. First one was a man that was sent to the hospital with STAGE 4 lung cancer and in hospice care. Around here hospice care means you have days to live. The other 2 they won't say what was wrong with them because the GOV got heat for telling about the first one because of HIPPA. It may take away from the drama if they tell the people were already terminal when this killed them.....
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Re: Corona mess over hyped
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03/22/20 08:33 AM
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How many died from it in Italy friday jbyrd?
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Re: Corona mess over hyped
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03/22/20 08:55 AM
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Haven't been here in a while, but if you want a good data base this one tells it all: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/For the record, this is the very first time in my 55 years on this planet that a virus outbreak has occurred that's got me more than just a bit concerned. 13,598 so far world wide and the numbers are going way up exponentially each week. *Check that website out around 6.00pm Eastern Daylight Savings Time so you can see the numbers from Europe, and for those upset about the numbers being low here in the States, don't worry by the end of Spring, early Summer they should be cranking up good here as well, as the virus really hasn't really taken hold here yet - which is something the government is trying to ensure does not happen by placing all these measures in place. Be safe everyone !!
Respect,
Big George + Loki the Dog.....
East Derby, CT
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Re: Corona mess over hyped
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03/22/20 09:06 AM
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How many died from it in Italy friday jbyrd?
FIRST and more importantly WE DON'T live in Italy!!! WE don't live in whohoo china either!! The living conditions there are like some third world country! Heck half One of Italy's major cities is built on top of it's sewer system. No the streets ARE it's sewer system. Have to use a boat to float around !! My comparison is in the UNITED STATES !!!! If they want to reveal the correct DATA tell us how many the virus has killed!! Don't tell me about a cancer patient in his last few days that happen to test positive at the time of death !! Or granny that has been on a ventilator for 7 plus years or someone that hasn't got out of there bed for 10 plus years. That is weighted stats any time someone else tried to use those numbers like that. Just how many has the virus taken . If you remember I called it the human distemper long time ago. Heck any trapper should know what happens when you get an overpopulation of ANY mammal. Some form of disease will thin them out !!! But in most cases of an outbreak the weak AND the young are the first to die. This bug so far seems to spare the young and ONLY kills ,NO let me rephrase that CONTRIBUTES to the death of older people or terminal patients.
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Re: Corona mess over hyped
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03/22/20 09:14 AM
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Haven't been here in a while, but if you want a good data base this one tells it all: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/For the record, this is the very first time in my 55 years on this planet that a virus outbreak has occurred that's got me more than just a bit concerned. 13,598 so far world wide and the numbers are going way up exponentially each week. *Check that website out around 6.00pm Eastern Daylight Savings Time so you can see the numbers from Europe, and for those upset about the numbers being low here in the States, don't worry by the end of Spring, early Summer they should be cranking up good here as well, as the virus really hasn't really taken hold here yet - which is something the government is trying to ensure does not happen by placing all these measures in place. Be safe everyone !! LOL hey George google how many people died from the flu last year . No wait I'll do it for you 646,000 (app) With these kind of numbers why aren't we cowering in lock down every oct to april (flu season according to cdc) That is why I'm just shaking my head at the news each and every day ..... https://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=208914
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Re: Corona mess over hyped
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03/22/20 09:53 AM
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Two things I have noticed is exponentially growing and doubling being claimed. Exponential growth is y=ax to a power. This is not happening as well as doubling now that our numbers are not small. Carry on!
Who is John Galt?
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Re: Corona mess over hyped
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03/22/20 11:11 AM
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Looks like about 600 more people have died in the last 8 hours. I would say it's starting to pick up.
Last edited by muddyriverdogz; 03/22/20 11:12 AM.
You only live once, so get over it!
Tactics may change but the goal remains the same.
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Re: Corona mess over hyped
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03/22/20 11:17 AM
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Haven't been here in a while, but if you want a good data base this one tells it all: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/For the record, this is the very first time in my 55 years on this planet that a virus outbreak has occurred that's got me more than just a bit concerned. 13,598 so far world wide and the numbers are going way up exponentially each week. *Check that website out around 6.00pm Eastern Daylight Savings Time so you can see the numbers from Europe, and for those upset about the numbers being low here in the States, don't worry by the end of Spring, early Summer they should be cranking up good here as well, as the virus really hasn't really taken hold here yet - which is something the government is trying to ensure does not happen by placing all these measures in place. Be safe everyone !! LOL hey George google how many people died from the flu last year . No wait I'll do it for you 646,000 (app) With these kind of numbers why aren't we cowering in lock down every oct to april (flu season according to cdc) That is why I'm just shaking my head at the news each and every day ..... https://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=208914Ha Ha - that's a good one - tell me, how many people got the flu last year ?? Then do the math......
Respect,
Big George + Loki the Dog.....
East Derby, CT
CTA [life member], NTA, FTA, FBU
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Re: Corona mess over hyped
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03/22/20 11:23 AM
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Looks like about 600 more people have died in the last 8 hours. I would say it's starting to pick up. 600 more where? world wide? Please read this !!! times. times. https://fullfact.org/online/coronavirus-daily-deaths/Wow mosquitoes kill 2400 people a day!! Diabetes 4300 a day OH no heart attacks over 24,000 a day OH NO !! ban high fat foods !!!!!!!!!!!! hurry Don't have too idiots bought them all in stores
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Re: Corona mess over hyped
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03/22/20 11:25 AM
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Looks like about 600 more people have died in the last 8 hours. I would say it's starting to pick up. 600 more where? world wide? Please read this !!! times. times. https://fullfact.org/online/coronavirus-daily-deaths/Wow mosquitoes kill 2400 people a day!! Diabetes 4300 a day OH no heart attacks over 24,000 a day OH NO !! ban high fat foods !!!!!!!!!!!! hurry Don't have too idiots bought them all in stores How many will it be killing in the next couple of weeks is the question.
You only live once, so get over it!
Tactics may change but the goal remains the same.
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Re: Corona mess over hyped
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03/22/20 11:30 AM
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Diabetes and heart attacks are not contagious.....  Thanks for the update Marty I thought you caught them from reeses cups. LOL But my point is not to cower in our houses thinking the angel of death is walking the streets looking for a law breaker who happened to go out. The media and politicians are election medelling 101 !!!!
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