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Are we fighting a losing battle? #6815715
03/24/20 04:00 PM
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And I am not talking about the Chinese virus. When I look back how many states lost their trapping rights and none of these rights have ever been reinstated. The constant threats to the the second amendment and the clout that hunters lost due to declining hunting numbers, etc. How are the liberal democrats winning so many congressional districts when they are against these rights. I think the biggest problem are the large number of hunters, trappers, gun owners that are voting for these liberals. I don’t think many of these liberal politicians would win if the these same voters would vote for their rights instead of against them. Then these same hunter’s, trappers, gun owners will complain when they lose these rights. I know a trapper that complains about losing his trapping rights but is going to vote straight democratic this coming Fall. And he is also a small business owner! On another site, a trapper is praising the Pelosi 1,400 page democratic Chinese virus bill and condemning the Republican’s bill. Nope, I think we are losing the war and I am now thinking how much money I can save if I stop trapping and spending on memberships and related donations.

Re: Are we fighting a losing battle? [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #6815727
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Not all people are one issue voters.


Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
Re: Are we fighting a losing battle? [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #6815731
03/24/20 04:15 PM
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Yes Grandpa you are correct. Hillary won popular vote 3 yrs ago. It was only the electoral college that saved our bacon. As the city populations grow, liberal numbers increase. It's just a matter of time. The next Dem that gets elected President will seal our fate.


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Re: Are we fighting a losing battle? [Re: Boco] #6815742
03/24/20 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Boco
Not all people are one issue voters.



A lot of them are .... Does the phrase " Free stuff " Ring a bell ??? To may people are willing to give up freedom for free stuff.


Let's go Brandon

"Shall not comply" with morons who don't understand "shall not infringe."
Re: Are we fighting a losing battle? [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #6815772
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You’ve lost the battle once you’ve lost. Until then, keep supporting your local trapping organizations, and vote wisely. There’s plenty of us “young” outdoorsmen who want to be about to trap, hunt, etc 50 years from now. Don’t let tomorrow’s worries rob you of your joy today, or your investment in the future. God is still in control, and that’s what I’m trusting in.

Just my .02 cents

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Re: Are we fighting a losing battle? [Re: scratch n dent] #6815773
03/24/20 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by scratch n dent
You’ve lost the battle once you’ve lost. Until then, keep supporting your local trapping organizations, and vote wisely. There’s plenty of us “young” outdoorsmen who want to be about to trap, hunt, etc 50 years from now. Don’t let tomorrow’s worries rob you of your joy today, or your investment in the future. God is still in control, and that’s what I’m trusting in.

Just my .02 cents

very well said young man.









Re: Are we fighting a losing battle? [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #6815797
03/24/20 05:09 PM
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A lot of union people vote Democrat then wonder why their jobs get sent offshore.


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Re: Are we fighting a losing battle? [Re: scratch n dent] #6815800
03/24/20 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by scratch n dent
You’ve lost the battle once you’ve lost. Until then, keep supporting your local trapping organizations, and vote wisely. There’s plenty of us “young” outdoorsmen who want to be about to trap, hunt, etc 50 years from now. Don’t let tomorrow’s worries rob you of your joy today, or your investment in the future. God is still in control, and that’s what I’m trusting in.

Just my .02 cents

Nice to hear!


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Re: Are we fighting a losing battle? [Re: Boco] #6815810
03/24/20 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Boco
Not all people are one issue voters.



you're right...an awful lot of people will sell their Freedom dirt cheap.

me? I *AM* a one issue voter...I vote for FREEDOM above all else!

Re: Are we fighting a losing battle? [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #6815814
03/24/20 05:25 PM
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We (conservatives) are losing Grandpa Trapper and I don't see that trend ever being reversed. Liberals have taken over education and have used it to propagandize generations of young Americans, to indoctrinate them to liberal ideology. Liberals own the media and use that very powerful tool to lead the ignorant masses in this Country, to force feed them opinions which they then embrace as their own.

And finally, liberals have figured out that many will trade freedom for a false sense of security and, even better, free stuff. And they use that to stay in power.

And while liberals have been busy doing all that, what have conservatives been doing? Do true conservatives even exist in politics anymore?

This business of shutting down the entire Country and tanking the economy over a flu virus has shown me that a shocking (to me) number of Americans are willing to just roll over and let he government dictate every aspect of their lives...in the name of public safety of course.


Eh...wot?

Re: Are we fighting a losing battle? [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #6815820
03/24/20 05:28 PM
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Lugnut,

liberals didn't "take over" education...we ceded control to them (there's more of us).

Malcolm X said "Only a Fool would allow his enemies to educate his children".

We are Fools!

Re: Are we fighting a losing battle? [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #6815822
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Everything is probably not going to be okay. That's the view I hold.

Re: Are we fighting a losing battle? [Re: white marlin] #6815868
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Originally Posted by white marlin
Lugnut,

liberals didn't "take over" education...we ceded control to them (there's more of us).

Malcolm X said "Only a Fool would allow his enemies to educate his children".

We are Fools!


Do you think conservatives outnumber liberals in this Country?


Eh...wot?

Re: Are we fighting a losing battle? [Re: Lugnut] #6815883
03/24/20 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Lugnut
Originally Posted by white marlin
Lugnut,

liberals didn't "take over" education...we ceded control to them (there's more of us).

Malcolm X said "Only a Fool would allow his enemies to educate his children".

We are Fools!


Do you think conservatives outnumber liberals in this Country?



Depends on if people are honest with themselves. If you have people fill out a questionnaire with questions to identify what political philosophy you agree with, 80% or better would be conservative to libertarian if they answered honestly.

Re: Are we fighting a losing battle? [Re: Lugnut] #6815888
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Originally Posted by Lugnut
Originally Posted by white marlin
Lugnut,

liberals didn't "take over" education...we ceded control to them (there's more of us).

Malcolm X said "Only a Fool would allow his enemies to educate his children".

We are Fools!


Do you think conservatives outnumber liberals in this Country?


outside of the big cities?

absolutely!

Re: Are we fighting a losing battle? [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #6815912
03/24/20 06:33 PM
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If Michael Bloomberg could find a pig that did not have bad breath he could get it elected in to office. It is being done every day in the real world. All you have to do is put enough money in the right circles. Just follow the money. That is not my opinion it is a fact.


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Re: Are we fighting a losing battle? [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #6815913
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I'm talking all Americans of voting age. If conservatives outnumber liberals why are we losing or barely winning elections?

Conservatives sitting on their arses on election days?


Eh...wot?

Re: Are we fighting a losing battle? [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #6815921
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Not many conservatives to vote for. 90% of the tea party candidates turned out to be frauds.

Re: Are we fighting a losing battle? [Re: Lugnut] #6815928
03/24/20 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Lugnut
I'm talking all Americans of voting age. If conservatives outnumber liberals why are we losing or barely winning elections?

Conservatives sitting on their arses on election days?

That would be my guess. Lots of folks don't vote. Now if .gov is your lively hood or .gov provides you goodies, those folks are going to be more vigilant voters. Wonder who the majority of these folks vote for.

Re: Are we fighting a losing battle? [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #6815929
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90% of the tea party candidates turned out to be frauds.


Very true. Then you have the R's running Romney or McCain or read my lips Bush.

I wish more people would realize political partys do more harm than good


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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