My whole point is this 200,000 number is AFTER theyre doing what people are saying is crossing the line. Take that number times 10 or more if no government involvement. This 200,000 keeps getting thrown around as being no big deal if thats all that dies its an acceptable number that we should let ride. Its not the number if things are left alone!!

Lots of Doubting Thomases on here I see.

Easy Steven. I changed it just for you (but I didn't have you in mind when I wrote it).

I/m realizing stress will likely kill more than this covid deal.

Remember...don't worry about tomorrow as God is already there. Helps me at times, anyhow.

As stated, I sure wouldn't want to be in the Prez's position right now. No way to fix both a pandemic AND the economy at the same time. Yes, steps can be taken to mitigate both...but at best we have to deal with one at a time. Perception of whats more important is the only argument here....and both sides are just guessing at this point. Neither are worth locking up over, however.

Fleshing beaver, cutting wood and working bees is what I'll be doing until this blows over. And if I'm not suppose to live to see next trapping season, I realize that's not my call. I can only do my part not to take others with me.

A lot of people spazing out is what I see.

This virus started in China 100 miles from the capital city of beijing.yet there is not death there!why?? Are they lieing about the numbers? Or was it planned virus? Do they have a vaccine for it?? Beijiy is a city of millions and not one death....hmmmmm

The numbers are a lie as the UK said yesterday from there intellegence in China. There infected is probably in the million's and who knows how many dead. Video's coming out of China with body bags stacked along the streets.

I bet the Chinamen have a couple more even worse ones brewing ready to turn loose on the west.

i fear your right Boco,how much ya heard about trade since??

Yep after Trump hammered them

This one is a trial run

Halfway there. Haven’t seen the mass die off yet. If I’m one of the 26 per million that die from it here in the United States I guess my time is up. In the last week we’ve had one die here. She was in her 90’s and tested negative with the original swab (the false negatives they are finding with the swab once compared with the blood antigen is quite high). Which once again means there’s probably a huge number of cases that aren’t being considered in the mortality rate. Another positive here in town had no fever, mild symptoms. Middle aged and doing fine at home with it.

I know it’s not supposed to “peak” for another couple weeks but I’ve been hearing “hold on next week” for the last four weeks. I still stand by what I said. This virus will kill people. The economic issues following it are going to kill a lot more.

Well now that we are not talking single and double digit numbers it appears the death rate per day is leveling off at 1000 to 1500 per day. Mostly New York where they have been in lockdown. How many days at the rate to equal 1 million deaths?

You mean years? That’s if it would stay sustained. It’s been interesting to see how the media will twist about any story on this subject. I’ve seen so much bad information it’s hard to internet anymore.

Not much comfort if you are in NY. LLL

The numbers don’t add up there either Larry. When you look at their usual number of deaths per day compared to the added on deaths from Coronavirus (which is a whole other topic) I think the media is fueling mass hysteria.

And the CDC issued a statement to hospitals, that if you die from anything and have covid19 that is the cause of death on you're death certificate
Can't post the links, as I'm to dumb to figure it out on my phone

Should we not be dividing the numbers of deaths into the number who have recovered since we do not know the outcome until you are dead or recovered? Just something to think on. A lot of those who have it will not die we assume. Some will most certainly. Lots of ways to bend numbers to get to where we want to go. I do believe it will be less than what they are saying. I pray that is the case. Meanwhile China has locked down again. I wonder why? LLL

Here are some links to the studies the news has been reporting on.

The 2.2 million deaths are from an Imperial College of London report (Report 9 dated 16 March 2020). This was one of the main reports used to craft the US response to C19. You can also find more recent, updated studies on this same page. http://www.imperial.ac.uk/mrc-global-infectious-disease-analysis/covid-19/

This link is to a study done jointly by the Imperial College of London and others. I am including it in this post, because helps show how the medical community is still trying go get handle on C19 (apparent lower mortality rates than previously predicted, but still a lot of uncertainty if it will hold true for other strains/regions) I didn't look at the source report. I am sure you can find it with a google search: https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20200331/covid-19-death-rate-drops-still-deadly-to-seniors

This last link is to the reports typically cited by the White House: http://covid19.healthdata.org/projections

I agree Larry I can send those numbers about any direction you want. They’re pretty easy to manipulate. It’s like people are waiting for doomsday and so far that hasn’t happened. People are getting sick and they are dying. So far it appears the healthcare system is holding up quite well.

Healthcare workers are experiencing things they haven’t before. It’s changing every day. I hope when the smoke settles this at least opens the eyes of everyone to the everyday issues in healthcare that are generally overlooked by the public.

I still believe the worst fall out of this will be not the virus itself but the results following this shutdown. I’m already seeing it in the local healthcare system preparing/waiting for this wave of patients that just simply hasn’t showed up.

I guess I’ll check back in next week. If I’m not up to my elbows in work. I’m running out of vacation time (by choice).

I read an article that talked with a leading Oncologist in New York. He stated the travesty is that anyone with Covid-19 that passes is being listed as a Covid-19 related death. He stated that of the 200 cancer patients he has in New York City that 8 have contracted Covid-19 and passed. All list a Covid "related" deaths. All were terminal and he gave an example of a woman that came to him 9 weeks ago. He gave her 6 weeks to 3 months. She passed at last week. Called a Covid related death when she most definitely passed from cancer. He also stated that China may not have reported all their deaths but that the ones they did report were caused solely by Covid-19 hence the difference in reported deaths. Once again the left adding to mass hysteria. We will never know what the real number is here in the states