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Re: FHA On-Line Announcement [Re: wissmiss] #6830211
04/04/20 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by wissmiss
I think FHA,s fees for this sale were similar to NAFA fees. They use 2 different systems, so a person would have to crunch some numbers to know for sure.

For this auction, FHA charged an 8.2 % commission plus a packing fee depending on the species. 25 cents for a possum. $100.00 for a grizzley bear. Everything else some where in between.

Nafa charged a 6.5 % commission plus 2 per species fees.


Don't forget their crazy packing fees etc..the last sale NAFA had- their fees went crazy!-cash grab! Bought 300 plus beaver for $4.50 U.S. and they cost me over $15 canadian landed at the dressers-BRUTAL

FHA was not that expensive-not even close

Re: FHA On-Line Announcement [Re: Marty B] #6830248
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Originally Posted by Marty B
Reserves, and valuations are two different things.


We're all aware of this , right?

I'm my mind MARTY B there style of valuation is a reserve ,,,,if there not selling below valuation ???


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Re: FHA On-Line Announcement [Re: Monster Toms] #6830380
04/04/20 09:54 PM
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Beav overthinks it.


Dont be like beav.

Re: FHA On-Line Announcement [Re: Monster Toms] #6830388
04/04/20 10:01 PM
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So auction results are still unknown after all this time ?

Re: FHA On-Line Announcement [Re: Monster Toms] #6830416
04/04/20 10:20 PM
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Re: FHA On-Line Announcement [Re: coonman220] #6830420
04/04/20 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by coonman220
So auction results are still unknown after all this time ?

Nope not until monday sometime.


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Re: FHA On-Line Announcement [Re: red mt] #6830430
04/04/20 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by red mt
Originally Posted by coonman220
So auction results are still unknown after all this time ?

Nope not until monday sometime.


The press release said "early next week". Monday might be optimistic.

Re: FHA On-Line Announcement [Re: Monster Toms] #6830446
04/04/20 10:55 PM
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I heard that there was a lot of bidding on the heavy beaver.


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Re: FHA On-Line Announcement [Re: Monster Toms] #6830484
04/04/20 11:58 PM
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There was bidding on the heavy beaver. Not sure if I would call it a “lot”.


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Re: FHA On-Line Announcement [Re: coonman220] #6830633
04/05/20 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by coonman220
So auction results are still unknown after all this time ?



You still haven't got your results??????????

They must not have sold any of your fur !!!





grin grin grin grin grin grin


Since this sale was put together on the fly when the normal auction was cancelled, I figure there is a lot of stuff being done at homes away from the business facility because of the virus.


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Re: FHA On-Line Announcement [Re: Monster Toms] #6830637
04/05/20 08:03 AM
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Thanks to Mark Downey for the update and to fur harvesters for doing the best they could. If you think about the number of changing circumstances they dealt with in the last few weeks, it is impressive that they held the event. I am happy that had an auction, happy they moved some fur, and wish them success. One more option for fur sellers is good. Fur is a commodity and comodity prices go up and down and are ultimately worth what someone will pay for them, no matter someone,s opinion of their valuation.

Re: FHA On-Line Announcement [Re: Monster Toms] #6830649
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Re: FHA On-Line Announcement [Re: RonH] #6830651
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Originally Posted by RonH
Thanks to Mark Downey for the update and to fur harvesters for doing the best they could. If you think about the number of changing circumstances they dealt with in the last few weeks, it is impressive that they held the event. I am happy that had an auction, happy they moved some fur, and wish them success. One more option for fur sellers is good. Fur is a commodity and comodity prices go up and down and are ultimately worth what someone will pay for them, no matter someone,s opinion of their valuation.

I agree that fur Harvesters is a truly amazing and stupendous Outlet fur Trappers and fur buyers. Far more amazing than Grunwald choice to sit on the sidelines with their tail in between their legs not doing anything at all. But I do not believe fur is a commodity. I believe fur is a luxury. Not saying it shouldn't be but that's what I believe it is


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Re: FHA On-Line Announcement [Re: Monster Toms] #6830703
04/05/20 08:53 AM
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Reading many posts makes me think many here are first time shippers to FHA ? It has always taken several days after their auctions to post auction results and even longer to update personal accounts.

Re: FHA On-Line Announcement [Re: Monster Toms] #6830704
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Around here, GFW and other buyers are still burning up the rubber buying coyotes.

Re: FHA On-Line Announcement [Re: Monster Toms] #6830820
04/05/20 09:26 AM
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At 84.10 American depending how long ago the offer was,,, say end January first week of feb. I might done the same thing and sent them. Just bad circumstances imo.

Yes, definitely poor timing over stupidity. It was early Jan. Hindsight is generally 20/20. I just used prices I received last year at Nafa as a guideline to what I felt they were worth. What is even more concerning is all of the real nice dead of winter yotes still hanging in my shed. Good thing it is just a hobby. smirk

Re: FHA On-Line Announcement [Re: MB Coonguy] #6831043
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Originally Posted by MB Coonguy
Originally Posted by wissmiss
I think FHA,s fees for this sale were similar to NAFA fees. They use 2 different systems, so a person would have to crunch some numbers to know for sure.

For this auction, FHA charged an 8.2 % commission plus a packing fee depending on the species. 25 cents for a possum. $100.00 for a grizzley bear. Everything else some where in between.

Nafa charged a 6.5 % commission plus 2 per species fees.


Don't forget their crazy packing fees etc..the last sale NAFA had- their fees went crazy!-cash grab! Bought 300 plus beaver for $4.50 U.S. and they cost me over $15 canadian landed at the dressers-BRUTAL

FHA was not that expensive-not even close

In these days of very cheap fur, packing and handling fees are the only way for an auction to pay the bills. Buyers true cost of fur purchased at an auction with all the up charges along with shipping and brokers paperwork plus government inspection fees can more than double the cost of the fur. An $11.00 select dark LM Otter bought at auction last year cost me $22 by the time it was delivered to the dresser.

Re: FHA On-Line Announcement [Re: Poorcoon] #6831055
04/05/20 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Poorcoon
Originally Posted by RonH
Thanks to Mark Downey for the update and to fur harvesters for doing the best they could. If you think about the number of changing circumstances they dealt with in the last few weeks, it is impressive that they held the event. I am happy that had an auction, happy they moved some fur, and wish them success. One more option for fur sellers is good. Fur is a commodity and comodity prices go up and down and are ultimately worth what someone will pay for them, no matter someone,s opinion of their valuation.

I agree that fur Harvesters is a truly amazing and stupendous Outlet fur Trappers and fur buyers. Far more amazing than Grunwald choice to sit on the sidelines with their tail in between their legs not doing anything at all. But I do not believe fur is a commodity. I believe fur is a luxury. Not saying it shouldn't be but that's what I believe it is


Raw fur is a commodity. Fur coats are a luxury.
Raw fur is a product that is produced or harvested in large quantities, can't be easily distinguished by brand, and price is subject to the law of supply and demand.
IMO, of course.

Re: FHA On-Line Announcement [Re: Monster Toms] #6831078
04/05/20 12:26 PM
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Way too many negative Nellies out there. I have trapped for 40 years and have done well some years and not so well some. When I first started trapping I was able to go a local fur buyer and get paid. When I was able to drive I started going to my state fur sales. As I got older I started learning how to put up my to get top dollar. People have to remember quality fur will always have a market. If you are happy with where you sell your fur good for you. If you are not then figure out how to do better. I personally have sold at the two auction houses(now one) for 30 years. There is a place in this world for the country buyer, state auctions, and the one remaining fur house. There is no need to bash any of them.

Re: FHA On-Line Announcement [Re: Monster Toms] #6831094
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Good post otterc.
There is a lot of fur that should never be sent to the international auctions.That said,they will try their best to sell it anyway.


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