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Re: Magnetic field of coyote traps
[Re: Lazarus]
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04/06/20 02:59 PM
04/06/20 02:59 PM
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Kirk De
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OK, I get the idea. And for leghold traps, I take it its the same for legholds? I ordered the book by the way. Anxious to read it. On a standard leg hold highest point of the magnetic field is normally at the dog. But because the way and the mb 550 is made and materials used it may have a very low Reading. Where I live A Standard foothold Trap can have a reading five times greater or more than the average for the area. The lower the reading the better below the average. It can affect the catch by a factor of 5 to 10 times depending on the animal targeted.
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Re: Magnetic field of coyote traps
[Re: Lazarus]
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04/06/20 03:12 PM
04/06/20 03:12 PM
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Kirk De
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So if the highest point of the magnetic field is normally at the dog, is it the same with a dogless trap (since I run a lot of Bridger dogless for coyotes -- I don't use 550's for coyotes)? Also, could you "disguise" the dog's magnetic field? Use your magnetometer to test the trap and see. As far as disguising the trap, zager uses dead and dried lawn clippings or hay. Trappers have learned to place the dog toward the backing or lower of the trap. You also can lower the trap so that if he paws You’re more apt to catch him. My writings explain other ways.
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Re: Magnetic field of coyote traps
[Re: Kirk De]
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04/06/20 03:52 PM
04/06/20 03:52 PM
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Huntall76
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OK, now you've got me curious. I installed the Tesla Bot on my phone and its giving me readings. If I'm pointing it at my trap set, is there a threshold number that I should be looking for? What's too high? What's acceptable? Turn your volume up on your phone and push the 10 X button on the iPhone or on the outside of the magnetometer. Go out in your yard away from any powerlines turn your magnetometer on. Figure out what your average reading is. That is your base anything above that is a higher intensity. Anything below are a reduced intensity. If you have a cage trap when you run the magnetometer in the door of the trap a A reduced reading should be experienced for the trap to be best. A higher rating than your average indicated you may catch fewer animals with the trap. ^^^^^^^ I'm not trying to beat you up but you did all this research wrote a book and at the end of that you say a trap with higher reading MAY CATCH FEWER ANIMALS, all that and you don't know for sure? And if it may make fewer catches would it also be correct to say It may catch the same or it may catch more since we don't really know?
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Re: Magnetic field of coyote traps
[Re: Huntall76]
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04/06/20 04:13 PM
04/06/20 04:13 PM
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Kirk De
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[quote=Lazarus]OK, now you've got me curious. I installed the Tesla Bot on my phone and its giving me readings. If I'm pointing it at my trap set, is there a threshold number that I should be looking for? What's too high? What's acceptable? Turn your volume up on your phone and push the 10 X button on the iPhone or on the outside of the magnetometer. Go out in your yard away from any powerlines turn your magnetometer on. Figure out what your average reading is. That is your base anything above that is a higher intensity. Anything below are a reduced intensity. If you have a cage trap when you run the magnetometer in the door of the trap a A reduced reading should be experienced for the trap to be best. A higher rating than your average indicated you may catch fewer animals with the trap. If your target in cats Or young animals But the brains haven’t matured. Maybe animals have never witnessed or xperience with a magnetic field before.Explanation is in detail in my book.
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Re: Magnetic field of coyote traps
[Re: Artrapper16]
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04/06/20 06:44 PM
04/06/20 06:44 PM
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The Beav
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Well all my canine traps are powder coated will that make a difference? And It's not anything like that cheap looking so called powder coating on those DPs.
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Re: Magnetic field of coyote traps
[Re: Artrapper16]
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04/06/20 07:22 PM
04/06/20 07:22 PM
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cmcf
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Does a magnet on one side of a sheet of plastic attract iron filings on the other side?
“The world is governed by very different personages from what is imagined” B. Disraeli
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Re: Magnetic field of coyote traps
[Re: The Beav]
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04/06/20 07:35 PM
04/06/20 07:35 PM
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Kirk De
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Well all my canine traps are powder coated will that make a difference? And It's not anything like that cheap looking so called powder coating on those DPs. I never tested foot holds that were powder coated. It doesn’t help in cage traps, That I found. I believe it with the right coating it could help with footholds.
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Re: Magnetic field of coyote traps
[Re: cmcf]
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04/06/20 07:37 PM
04/06/20 07:37 PM
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Kirk De
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Does a magnet on one side of a sheet of plastic attract iron filings on the other side? I know positive and negative charges attract but I don’t believe this is the same thing exactly. Sorry I couldn’t give you a better answer
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Re: Magnetic field of coyote traps
[Re: Kirk De]
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04/06/20 07:47 PM
04/06/20 07:47 PM
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Kirk De
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Well all my canine traps are powder coated will that make a difference? And It's not anything like that cheap looking so called powder coating on those DPs. I never tested foot holds that were powder coated. It doesn’t help in cage traps, That I found. I believe it with the right coating it could help with footholds. I take it back. I had a friend come by and he had some new traps they were powder coated very well. They had a low test which was very good. But I did not test before they were powder coated.
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Re: Magnetic field of coyote traps
[Re: Dr. Fur]
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04/06/20 09:40 PM
04/06/20 09:40 PM
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Lazarus
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Well, the baseline in my house is 29.
I moved it around my laptop on my lap. Right in front of family jewels, it went to 211. I wonder if that is good or bad??? Think what kind of a reading you would have gotten 15 years ago. :-)
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Re: Magnetic field of coyote traps
[Re: Artrapper16]
#6832748
04/06/20 09:49 PM
04/06/20 09:49 PM
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Lazarus
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So I went to a spot of ground in my backyard and it was pretty solid at 44. Movement to the left or right 2-3 feet yielded only small variations.
I tested 4 traps.
The first was a Painted (with direct-to-metal paint) number 3 dogless Bridger with a dog knot stake attached. It registered right at 45. Not much difference.
I then tested a painted #3 Monty round jaw dogless with a drag and long chain. It was 44. The drag actually was closer to 43 but the trap was 44. Later I got curious and put the phone right on top of the trap (about 3" distance) and moved it all around the trap. The levels went from a hight of 46 to a low of 38 on various parts of the trap, with the levers being lower than the jaw/dog area.
I also tested a bare, rusted #3 Victor LS. It tested right about 43, slightly below the previous two painted traps.
I also tested a 1.75 waxed Monty with a stake. This trap jumped to 65, which was way above anything else. Later I discovered that if I moved the trap away from the stake, the readings went down to the mid-50's. Then I zeroed in on the stake. I had recently welded a nut to the top of an old dog knot and it was still raw -- not wax or paint to it and some of the welding flux still present. The top where I had welded was the hot spot. The rest of the stake was normal. I tried burying the stake head and the reading subsided just a tiny bit. I then put an aluminum wire screen pan cover on the trap and the reading decreased a few points. The same with the other traps.
I then put the pan cover on each trap and buried it. Doing so decreased the readings slightly.
Last edited by Lazarus; 04/06/20 09:52 PM.
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