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Re: The human evolutionary tree [Re: cmcf] #6839607
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Originally Posted by cmcf
Is it heresy to believe in CHRIST and science? I think not. Many of you will disparage my faith because of my last question. Then go off and thump your chest with pride. For none are so blind as those who would not see and brothers and sisters there is a mountain of evidence and it is growing faster than ever. You can make a diamond in a lab so easily the world uses them as abrasives. But no one and I mean not one fossil has ever been made in a lab, because it takes TIME. And before any of you crackerjacks start holleren what about the FAKES? Everyone was found out and it was science that exposed them.

If not for science we would still be stareing at the southern end of a north bound goat and wondering what that comet “portends “ and why the crops are failing and maybe that voice in our head telling us to kill our son may be on to something. WHHHAAATTTT?

There actually was an infamous hoax that set back the scientific field of paleoanthropology for years. Skeptics had been clamoring for the "missing link" that would prove that humans, like all other living beings, had evolved. It was theorized that man evolved when his brain became larger than other primates'. Then suddenly in 1912 an ancient skull was found in a gravel pit in England. It had a large brain case but a primitive ape like jaw. He became known as "Piltdown Man". For the next four decades everything that was being found somehow had to fit into the Piltdown model. Of course eventually it was discovered that it was an elaborate hoax. An older human skull had been expertly joined with an artificially aged ape jaw.

It is now thought that perhaps bipedal locomotion (walking upright) was one of the first transitions taken by our direct ancestors. This change goes back 3 million years by Australopithecus, among the earliest of the hominid line.

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Re: The human evolutionary tree [Re: Yes sir] #6839632
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Originally Posted by Yes sir
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Don't you guys have that other thread as your playground?

Thought about that before I posted but then realized you had posted on that one too, but I'll stop posting on this thread for you friend.

You got me there. LOL Good point.


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Re: The human evolutionary tree [Re: beaverpeeler] #6839658
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A question for those who believe we came from monkeys

When did monkeys stop becoming humans ?

Why did monkeys stop becoming humans ?

Why is it when we go to the zoo the monkeys are still monkeys and not a cage full of ugly people years later ?


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Re: The human evolutionary tree [Re: beaverpeeler] #6839668
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I certainly don't believe we came from monkeys so I'm of no use here.


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Re: The human evolutionary tree [Re: beaverpeeler] #6839682
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Antigov, who is claiming humans evolved from monkeys? That is a theory I am unfamiliar with and I cant find any reference to.


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Re: The human evolutionary tree [Re: beaverpeeler] #6839684
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I don't think anyone ever said humans came from monkeys.DNA has shown what was already indicated that monkeys and humans evolved along separate lineages from an archaic common ancestor.


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Re: The human evolutionary tree [Re: Boco] #6839686
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If the tree is very large and with many branches and offshoots then a species does not have to descend from another, it can be very, very similar but of it's own place on the tree.

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Re: The human evolutionary tree [Re: beaverpeeler] #6839704
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
Antigov, who is claiming humans evolved from monkeys? That is a theory I am unfamiliar with and I cant find any reference to.



Danny , i didnt read all of this thread so maybe no one here ?


Its still a valid question as billions who dont belive in the creator do believe in this

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Re: The human evolutionary tree [Re: beaverpeeler] #6839705
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Re: The human evolutionary tree [Re: pcr2] #6839707
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Originally Posted by pcr2
thats me--second from the left.



Ha .... you aint that short are you ?


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Re: The human evolutionary tree [Re: Boco] #6839714
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Originally Posted by Boco
I don't think anyone ever said humans came from monkeys.DNA has shown what was already indicated that monkeys and humans evolved along separate lineages from an archaic common ancestor.



Bigfoot ?


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Re: The human evolutionary tree [Re: beaverpeeler] #6839715
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Re: The human evolutionary tree [Re: beaverpeeler] #6839717
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Science has never said people cam from apes, or monkeys, or chimps. A computer generated image in the 21st century is not a quality reference.

Re: The human evolutionary tree [Re: beaverpeeler] #6839720
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Is it not possible to believe that your creator has and continues to use evolutionary forces to make his/her masterpieces?


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Re: The human evolutionary tree [Re: beaverpeeler] #6839724
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I find that more appealing then thinking of our coming about as like some cheap David Copperfield trick.


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Re: The human evolutionary tree [Re: beaverpeeler] #6839729
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When I was a kid the old women busy bodies that taught sunday school, would circle the wagons if you said men and women have the same number of ribs.

Church leaders were prone to apocalyptic fits when first told that the earth circled the sun.

It was common at one time to burn alive any Dr that wanted to dissect a dead human.

So for church leaders to claim that evolutionists teach humans are evolved from monkeys, is not surprising.

If you really really want to see the wagons circle, talk about how almost every judeo/christian story can be found in other older tales.

You have to carefully choose the time and place as religious fanatics get angry and are often dangerous when angered.


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Re: The human evolutionary tree [Re: beaverpeeler] #6839730
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Originally Posted by beaverpeeler
Is it not possible to believe that your creator has and continues to use evolutionary forces to make his/her masterpieces?

It is possible to hold to that idea and still be a believer in Divine creation, however, any believer who wants to put some work and thought into the subject doesn't have to go for that easy-fix to the question. There are other explanations that don't involve any conflict between science and faith.

The real question is not where did we come from, but, where are we going?


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Originally Posted by beaverpeeler
Is it not possible to believe that your creator has and continues to use evolutionary forces to make his/her masterpieces?

It is possible to hold to that idea and still be a believer in Divine creation, however, any believer who wants to put some work and thought into the subject doesn't have to go for that easy-fix to the question. There are other explanations that don't involve any conflict between science and faith.

The real question is not where did we come from, but, where are we going? It's too bad that so many believers get all hung up on the first question.


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Re: The human evolutionary tree [Re: beaverpeeler] #6839736
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I still wanna know when the monkeys got together and said " screw those humans we gonna stay monkeys and make them feed us bananas "


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They never figured out how to harness fire, that was the big turning point in Human history and evolution.

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