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Covid-19 religious liberty issues #6840871
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I know it's a fine line and that we as a nation should be concerned with loss of liberty to gain temperary safety!

I agree with everything Trump has done to curb the damage that could have been caused by this virus. I don't agree with some of the things the individual states are doing!

Your govenors do not have the athority to take your rights! The guidelines have to be applied equally and temporarily!

Kentucky just lost a case this week already and is going back to federal court already at federal level to stop the missuse of the guidelines. I'm sure Mississippi and Michigan are next!?

https://firstliberty.org/news/covid-19-religious-liberty-attacks/

Re: Covid-19 religious liberty issues [Re: brianmall] #6840874
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Anyway

Just posting this to help clear up some thoughts.

I've already sad my piece on this topic in another thread. And maybe spread the word of an organization that may be able to help you and your church if your indeed being attacked right now!?

Re: Covid-19 religious liberty issues [Re: brianmall] #6840911
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Just seems weird they can draft you against your will to go into combat in a different country (and likely die as in WW2) but they ask you to hole up, watch Netflix, spend some extra time with your family and eat Bon Bons in an attempt to curb inner U.S deaths and everyone goes nuts. Hmmmm.

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Re: Covid-19 religious liberty issues [Re: brianmall] #6840932
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I think the people telling you what you can and cannot buy or do that has no impact on the virus is the problem. Governors banning what drugs that you cannot be offered is pointless and unnecessary along with a sail boat is ok but a motor boat is not allowed. You cannot plant a garden or buy building supplies when you have all the time in the world to do repairs.


Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!

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Re: Covid-19 religious liberty issues [Re: brianmall] #6840938
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I agree Brianmall!!!

But people Gathering is just stupid right now. I think the Church members put many at risk.


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Re: Covid-19 religious liberty issues [Re: brianmall] #6840940
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As for church gatherings I don't think they are essential. Even my brother's small deep Baptist church in central Washington state is doing services and weekly events online. Putting hundreds of people into a church that will then go to Walmart or Costco afterwards isn't smart now.

Sorry, but religious freedom, which I support, doesn't allow mass gatherings any more than a trapping demo or a swap meet.

Pete

Re: Covid-19 religious liberty issues [Re: brianmall] #6840941
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Re: Covid-19 religious liberty issues [Re: pcr2] #6841172
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Originally Posted by pcr2
i like pickles

Sweet or sour?


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Re: Covid-19 religious liberty issues [Re: brianmall] #6841185
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Calvin, you and your buddy still grabbing the guns of people who are carrying?


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Covid-19 religious liberty issues [Re: brianmall] #6841191
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Its not a religious issue. People have a right to assemble. Read the first amendment.

So whats the exit strategy from this horrible pandemic that is killing very few??????????????????

Eventually we will all be exposed. A virus never goes away.


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Covid-19 religious liberty issues [Re: brianmall] #6841218
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It's called the greater good. It does not give them the right to put a larger number of people in peril. They have other ways of gathering such as on line .But they want to pretend that there faith is under attack to make them seem important. By the way it is not just churches it is any large gathering.

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Re: Covid-19 religious liberty issues [Re: brianmall] #6841222
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I think her hair's pulled back so tight, it's making her feel under attack. Jesus would want you to observe and worship in whatever way best protects the most vulnerable among us. There will be many more Sundays, and many more Easters.

Re: Covid-19 religious liberty issues [Re: 330-Trapper] #6841237
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Originally Posted by 330-Trapper
I agree Brianmall!!!

But people Gathering is just stupid right now. I think the Church members put many at risk.



But large factories who are still allowed to operate, with many more people involved than most church congregations, area allowed to carry on as usual?

People, this isn't about protecting anyone, its ALL about taking freedoms! Never let a crisis go to waste is one of the mottos of the left. Fear is power.

Re: Covid-19 religious liberty issues [Re: brianmall] #6841240
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rex123 dont tell me my civil rights are suspended. it wont end well


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Covid-19 religious liberty issues [Re: danny clifton] #6841260
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How do they operate the BLACK HELICOPTERS

and still maintain Federal social distancing guidelines ? whistle

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Re: Covid-19 religious liberty issues [Re: 330-Trapper] #6841265
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Originally Posted by 330-Trapper
Originally Posted by pcr2
i like pickles

Sweet or sour?



330-u don't understand him-not that kind of pickle!!! laugh


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Re: Covid-19 religious liberty issues [Re: pcr2] #6841269
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Originally Posted by pcr2
i like pickles

Sour ones I like.horseradish injected.

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Originally Posted by walleyed
How do they operate the BLACK HELICOPTERS

and still maintain Federal social distancing guidelines ? whistle

w

They mostly fly around here towards fall to see who's growing weed in their back yard.They should have legalized it and save all that helicopter fuel. smile

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Re: Covid-19 religious liberty issues [Re: brianmall] #6841325
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I don't like it that they tell them folk they can't meet..Terrible thing..
But you would think they could figure out how to do it withing some reasonable guide lines..Also it's not like there telling them they will never be able to meet again ever. Huh!
Maybe they should just let them all do their have to go to meeting. But make them be required to wear a big scarlet V on their clothes somewhere so rest of us know.
Wonder how they'd like it if a store owner ask to see their religious preference ID. Then said sorry you can't purchase from our store until the virus passes..
Bet they'd be screaming then..Maybe they'd have to get that guy that won't bakes the cakes for gays feed them..

Mac


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Re: Covid-19 religious liberty issues [Re: danny clifton] #6841335
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
Calvin, you and your buddy still grabbing the guns of people who are carrying?


Every gun I saw HIM grab was given back to the owner. And you know as well as I, that was made in point to the open carry discussion as to how easy it is to disarm someone who open carries (horrible tactical advantage). For the record, I believe just about everyone should be able to carry and don't agree with most of the guns laws on the books today...let alone all the new gun laws they are trying to enact. "The right to bear arms shall not be infringed" PERIOD!

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