Re: I don't understand C19 attitudes
[Re: Foxpaw]
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04/17/20 09:45 AM
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Re: I don't understand C19 attitudes
[Re: oneoldboot]
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04/17/20 09:50 AM
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I think this Hong Kung Flu is way over blown. At first the "experts" said "no big deal" then "oh my GOD, 1/4 million dead", now its 50,000. Their models are useless, not enough info to make them accurate and they won't be any good till its all over and done with and there is good data available.
Then there is the inflating of dead due to China Flu. Dr. Brix herself said that if you die and have the flu they are listing it as due to flu. She is not the only one who has said or pointed out this. It is inflating the numbers.
On top of those 2 things the number dying or hospitalized for other issues are way down. Heart issues, pneumonia and few other. Why are these things down drastically? I suspect someone who dies of pneumonia and has the flu is being list as dead due to the flu, not the pneumonia.
After this is all over and done with if we don't have a spike in the number of dead over what "normal" mortality rates then we'll know its all been blown out of portion.
I don't wish anyone to die and its a sad thing when it happens. That being said people die every day in this country. In a "normal" year over 2,800,000 die in the US. Right now we are at 35,000 dead due to covid 19, inflated number I'm sure. Thats .0125 percent of the normal deaths due to covid 19. A drop in the bucket.
To shut down the economy a possible crash it for a ridiculous small amount of deaths is silly.
The living can not bring back the dead.
We can't prevent every death.
One thing is sure life will go on and the living must keep living. If your afraid of the flu, stay home and take any actions you feel necessary, but for the rest of us it should be our choice. Freedom demands it.
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Re: I don't understand C19 attitudes
[Re: oneoldboot]
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04/17/20 10:24 AM
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First of all most posts on here are about money.Money first people second. It is well stated by the healthcare authorities around the world that covid is as or more virulent and deadly than the spanish flu was that decimated populations around the world. The measures taken by world governments under advice from healthcare professionals has been very successful in keeping the spread and deaths due to corona to a minimum as much as possible.Uninformed people who poo-poo the death rates and infections of covid and say it is not that bad,or as bad as predicted,are not giving credit to the very measures that were and are being taken to keep this virus from exploding and becoming a global catastrophe. These measures are temporary until the virus runs its course,after which,in the future, it will be only a seasonal flu like h1n1,sars etc that were in play in the past and still pop up occasionally.The difference with covid is that it is more virulent in its first go around,(just like other new viruses were),which wont be the case when it becomes seasonal in the future.These protective measures that have been implemented are temporary. Governments should make it known in no uncertain terms that the next time another virus like covid comes along-and more will(manmade or not) due to the changes in world population and climate,- that they will NOT provide monetary help for people when things are shut down again the next time.People need to be responsible to prepare themselves for the next time this is going to occur,and put away a slush fund for at least a year.Responsible people should already do this,perhaps covid will be a wake up call to the irresponsible. There are too many irresponsible people out there,that live paycheque to paycheque,living on credit cards.I have no sympathy for these people losing their bank owned existence,since their woes are self inflicted.These are the childish entitled people who are going against the temporary healthcare recommendations and putting responsible people at risk.
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Re: I don't understand C19 attitudes
[Re: oneoldboot]
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04/17/20 10:52 AM
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Dont forget there are a lot of dead from it that will never be known either.
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Re: I don't understand C19 attitudes
[Re: oneoldboot]
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04/17/20 10:59 AM
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Don't forget that there are lifestyle changes that individuals can take today that will lower their risk of dying from the disease.
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Re: I don't understand C19 attitudes
[Re: Boco]
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04/17/20 11:08 AM
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Dont forget there are a lot of dead from it that will never be known either. Without googling give me three names that died in Iraq. How about 911? How about 3 from vehicle accidents yesterday?
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Re: I don't understand C19 attitudes
[Re: Boco]
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04/17/20 11:10 AM
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First of all most posts on here are about money.Money first people second. It is well stated by the healthcare authorities around the world that covid is as or more virulent and deadly than the spanish flu was that decimated populations around the world. The measures taken by world governments under advice from healthcare professionals has been very successful in keeping the spread and deaths due to corona to a minimum as much as possible.Uninformed people who poo-poo the death rates and infections of covid and say it is not that bad,or as bad as predicted,are not giving credit to the very measures that were and are being taken to keep this virus from exploding and becoming a global catastrophe. These measures are temporary until the virus runs its course,after which,in the future, it will be only a seasonal flu like h1n1,sars etc that were in play in the past and still pop up occasionally.The difference with covid is that it is more virulent in its first go around,(just like other new viruses were),which wont be the case when it becomes seasonal in the future.These protective measures that have been implemented are temporary. Governments should make it known in no uncertain terms that the next time another virus like covid comes along-and more will(manmade or not) due to the changes in world population and climate,- that they will NOT provide monetary help for people when things are shut down again the next time.People need to be responsible to prepare themselves for the next time this is going to occur,and put away a slush fund for at least a year.Responsible people should already do this,perhaps covid will be a wake up call to the irresponsible. There are too many irresponsible people out there,that live paycheque to paycheque,living on credit cards.I have no sympathy for these people losing their bank owned existence,since their woes are self inflicted.These are the childish entitled people who are going against the temporary healthcare recommendations and putting responsible people at risk. Don't worry Boco, we who you depend on so you can hole-up are actually glad your looking out for us after we do what you need us to. We're glad that your behind us not getting a warm meal at lunch time because the restaurants are closed up, and we're glad we can't go fishing after a week of putting our health on the line for you. And, last but not least, we're happy to staff the hospital incase you do happen to get it.
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Re: I don't understand C19 attitudes
[Re: oneoldboot]
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04/17/20 11:12 AM
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It's amazing how many folks willingly forgo their personal freedoms because the government told them it was too dangerous to go outside.
Eh...wot?
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Re: I don't understand C19 attitudes
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04/17/20 11:13 AM
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Stay at home, shelter in place or you will die!
We're from the government and we're here to help.
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Eh...wot?
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Re: I don't understand C19 attitudes
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04/17/20 11:15 AM
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Stay at home, shelter in place or you will die!
We're from the government and we're here to help.
SMH How'd that work for the Indians?
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