Ag land in feed grains ?
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After some comments about Mr .Michael Moore beliefs ,some here raised the topic of population control.This America we are Blessed with has the ability to feed huge numbers more than we are now feeding. I am fairly sure over %50 of our ag production go to livestock feed. We all like that meat and if necessary we could cut that consumption way back ! I had 200 bu of barley in a bin and A Priest from India was visiting our place he asked what was in the bin and wanted to see it.He asked what I was going to do with it ,I said I was going to finish feed some late lambs we had ,He said if we had this in India we would eat it !Americans live very high we are a spoiled and pampered bunch of sissies .There could be a time when we would have to change our ways and that would bring us back to our roots much for the better . This post is not directed to the majority of the members here but more so the affluent urban dwellers in particular .Thats my sermon for next 3 months .
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Re: Ag land in feed grains ?
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I am fairly sure over %50 of our ag production go to livestock feed. You would be wrong. It's well under, in the 30s I believe.
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I am fairly sure over %50 of our ag production go to livestock feed. You would be wrong. It's well under, in the 30s I believe. X2 Grain grown for livestock production is far less that grain produced for human consumption worldwide. The U.S. has the resources and capacity to produce more than is required to feed the hungry on this planet. O Distribution of food is the problem in most, if not all of the third world countries where hunger is prevalent. Availability of good, clean water is another issue as well. Too many well fed people criticize various aspects of agricultural production here in the U.S. qhile living inside the city limits. These same folks think milk comes from a bottle, meat from the store, vegetables from a market, etc. Last time I looked, I believe less than 2% of the population in the U.S. lives in rural America and is involved in the actual production of food & fiber. I have worked in agriculture my entire adult life, still live on my farm and I con't to be amazed at how little people know about real life outside the city.
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Re: Ag land in feed grains ?
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04/24/20 09:19 AM
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Tradervic well said. I will inject that there are millions of Acres not utilized and food destruct thousands of miles around the country most of which is unnecessary. That leaves 2 tons I've wasted money in fuel and transportation cost.
A lot of your food can be grown locally and support your local small farmer and community. It always floors me looking all these 10-acre yards in 5 acre yard mowed looking like a golf course with no animals no stock no Garden completely wasted on Aesthetics. There's more than enough unused land to feed most people in that City just in yards. At least in the Suburban areas.
Unfortunately the same city folks that want to buy Organics and know nothing about Rural Life are the same ones that pass homeowner restrictions in and government regulations that make it nearly impossible for a beginning small farmer to get started in Prosper. You know the kind that move to the country driving up property prices and taxes, then decide they don't like the neighbors live stock, eye sore scrap pile, conex storage solution and get on the boards and do their best to turn the country living they wanted into the city life they left. After all they know what's best for the farmers and live stock.
For example zoning rules and regulations that preclude a family of having a small flock of laying hens or Garden in their front or back yard and of course regulations on meat processing in being able to sell raw milk.
For more in-depth look on that in a humorous read check out Joel salatin everything I want to do is illegal the Great Book
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Re: Ag land in feed grains ?
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I've read more than once and from different sources that the healthiest (physically anyway) that Americans have ever been was during WWII with food rationing (actually just about everything was rationed). Anyway, with food rationing everyone had a garden to supplement their dietary needs.
Yep, maybe we should mow way less grass and produce our own fruit, vegetables, eggs, etc. A secondary beneifit is physical exercise, less anxiety, etc.
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Maybe it's time to stop subsidizing all businesses. This!
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Maybe it's time some of you under stand what subsidies are. Welfare, vote buying, Marxist redistribution, take your pick.
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Until the issue of our burgeoning population is addressed the issue of land use will only worsen. When another 100 million people are added to our population kiss our current wildlife conservation regs goodbye, maybe an all out ban on any sport hunting and fishing. It’s coming folks but by all means let’s continue arguing over the symptoms of over population and do nothing for a cure. Ok, first off - are you talking about over population here in our Lower 48 or somewhere else ? What do you propose be done to curb over population ?
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Until the issue of our burgeoning population is addressed the issue of land use will only worsen. When another 100 million people are added to our population kiss our current wildlife conservation regs goodbye, maybe an all out ban on any sport hunting and fishing. It’s coming folks but by all means let’s continue arguing over the symptoms of over population and do nothing for a cure. The United States alone has more than 2.4 billion acres with 350 million people. There are only 8 billion people in the world. I will just leave that there for some thought. I wouldn't worry much about over population. A big war, natural disaster, virus/plague something always comes along. What I do worry about it the continued growth of freedom hating, government dependent, nanny state worshippers. Independent thinking selfie reliant people not a problem.
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Until the issue of our burgeoning population is addressed the issue of land use will only worsen. When another 100 million people are added to our population kiss our current wildlife conservation regs goodbye, maybe an all out ban on any sport hunting and fishing. It’s coming folks but by all means let’s continue arguing over the symptoms of over population and do nothing for a cure. The United States alone has more than 2.4 billion acres with 350 million people. There are only 8 billion people in the world. I will just leave that there for some thought. I wouldn't worry much about over population. A big war, natural disaster, virus/plague something always comes along. What I do worry about it the continued growth of freedom hating, government dependent, nanny state worshippers. Independent thinking selfie reliant people not a problem. Yep.......X2.......big time !
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