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Home tanning.
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05/01/20 05:14 PM
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I'm tanning a couple small beaver,thought I would post a bit of info for anyone wanting to try. ![[Linked Image]](https://trapperman.com/forum/attachments/usergals/2020/05/full-21521-48660-dscf4150.jpg) Soak dried skins in cold water for a few hours. ![[Linked Image]](https://trapperman.com/forum/attachments/usergals/2020/05/full-21521-48662-dscf4151.jpg) Wring out skins. ![[Linked Image]](https://trapperman.com/forum/attachments/usergals/2020/05/full-21521-48663-dscf4152.jpg) De-grease with dish soap and a stiff bristle brush. ![[Linked Image]](https://trapperman.com/forum/attachments/usergals/2020/05/full-21521-48664-dscf4154.jpg) Rinse well in clear water several times so no soap left in skin or hair. ![[Linked Image]](https://trapperman.com/forum/attachments/usergals/2020/05/full-21521-48665-dscf4155.jpg) Mix pickle solution,3oz citric acid,1/2lb salt for each gallon of water.-ph should read between 1-2.You will need ph test paper strips to check acidity of the pickle as well as the tanning solution later. ![[Linked Image]](https://trapperman.com/forum/attachments/usergals/2020/05/full-21521-48667-dscf4156.jpg) Soak the skins in the pickle for 3 days.
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Re: Home tanning.
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05/01/20 08:14 PM
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Great idea you got me watching ! Thanks .
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Re: Home tanning.
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05/01/20 08:39 PM
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OK,now for the tanning solution. Take 1lb of aluminum sulfate and dissolve it in 1 gal of water. In another container mix 1 cup of salt and 4 oz of sodium carbonate(washing soda) in a half gallon of water. Slowly add the salt carbonate solution to the aluminum sulfate solution(not the other way around)-do it slowly as it will fizz up.Mix it as you add. Check the ph-it should be around 4-4.5 Adding the carbonate raises the ph of the aluminum sulfate solution making it a tanning solution-otherwise it would just be a pickle. Wring out skins and submerge them for 4 days in the tanning solution,mixing a couple times a day. ![[Linked Image]](https://trapperman.com/forum/attachments/usergals/2020/05/full-21521-48686-dscf4161.jpg) Will add the finishing later.
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Re: Home tanning.
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05/01/20 11:48 PM
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Pretty cool Boco! 4 days seems like a long time to be in a tan though.
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Re: Home tanning.
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05/02/20 12:06 AM
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It works fine JP. In the pickle you can leave it as long as you want.Just keep checking that the ph doesnt rise. 4 days in that tan solution is fine,I would not be concerned letting it in longer for a thick hide as long as it was pickled sufficiently. I should add that I do not neutralize the skins between the pickle and the tan.Just wring them out.You can give them a quick rinse in plain water too but I dont find it necessary.As long as the tan stays around 4 you are good. You can re use the pickle many times as long as you dont put dirty skins in it.Just make sure that the ph remains correct between 1 and 2. A lot of times I will do larger skins in a new pickle and smaller skins in an older pre used pickle. I do the same with the tan solution.
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Re: Home tanning.
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05/02/20 09:45 AM
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I do some,but no need on the small skins like small beaver,mink,rats,weasels,fox,squirrels,marten etc.Otter and large beaver need thinning.I will do it by frost scraping when boarding or on a beam with a spokeshave after pickling. It also depends on the use.For mitts I prefer thicker leather,and for wall hangers it doesnt matter.For hats you need thin leather.
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Re: Home tanning.
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05/02/20 11:54 AM
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So after 4 days I take the skins out of the tanning solution and wring them out in a towell so they are just damp. Then I slather the tanning oil(any commercial tanning oil will do), on the leather side,then roll them up for a day,then unroll but leave them folded leather to leather and let the fur side dry. Once the fur is dry,I open them up and let the leather start to dry.Once the leather starts to dry I pull and scrunch them once in a while until the leather is dry.I keep a bottle of tanning oil thinned with water 50-50 and spray a bit on the leather once in a while while it is drying if thicker parts of the skin are not soft.Dont overoil the thin parts of the skin. The fur looks all ratty at this point,but thats OK we will remedy that. Once the leather is dry I give the entire skin a wash in dish soap and water,making sure I wash the tanning oil out of the fur.Then rinse well and wring the skin out in a towell. At this point I will repair any holes in the skin and block it out-that is stretch and pin it just enough to take out the wrinkles. Now since the skin was washed I will spray a little thinned tanning oil on the thicker parts of the blocked out skin,being careful not to get any on the fur.If a bit gets on the fur edges it can be trimmed off by cutting 1/16 all around the perimeter after. Now I leave the skin to dry for a day, then take it off the board.
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Re: Home tanning.
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Now when It is dry I pull the pins and take it off the board. It will be done at this point,and the leather will be soften by scrunching just a little.I also take some coarse sandpaper and sand off any bloom on the leather at this point,also sand the edges from center outwards,you dont have to overdo this and be very careful on thin skins and around any sewed repairs. You can take the finishing to another step,which I do. It polishes the fur and further softens the leather. First I will spray the fur side with a bit of mineral spirits,then rub it in with a shop towell. Then I will put the skins in a bag with cob grit,sawdust or crushed walnut hulls(dampened with a bit of water)(the walnut hulls can discolour white fur),tie off the bag and tumble it in the dryer with the heat turned off for 20 minutes. Take the skins out and blow them with a shop vac or just give them a good shake and they are done.
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Re: Home tanning.
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Give it a try on some small skins-squirrel,groundhog,mink etc. Doesnt cost much for the ingredients and produces a nice tan. I sell small beaver like those for $25,and if you string them on a hoop they sell well for $40-$50. Some people buy the very small beavers to use as doilys to display other stuff like skulls or carvings,jewellery etc.
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Re: Home tanning.
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05/02/20 05:16 PM
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Hey,no problem,Chris. Huntall,i seen your question about coyote-as far as thinning the leather it would depend on the final use for the skin.For mitts or a wallhanger it wouldnt be necessary.Just make sure the skins are fleshed well,they can be fleshed before drying,then you can flesh any spots you missed any time during the pickle or tanning process. it is best to flesh any skins for tanning very well right after skinning and before drying.This will keep a lot of the fat and grease out of the leather,which has to be dealt with and removed sometime before tanning.
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Re: Home tanning.
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When you start off tanning fur there is a bit of a learning curve that takes some trial and error. Thats why its best to start off on small,easy to tan skins. Larger beaver are one of the most difficult to get good results. Groundhog skins are good to practice on-their hide is thick in the neck and shoulders and thin in the flanks and hips. Good to hone your tanning skills on.
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Re: Home tanning.
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05/04/20 11:23 AM
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No problem,Guys, When I get tired of BS'ing on the main forum,I come here and post something useful maybe once in a while,lol.
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Re: Home tanning.
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05/04/20 04:54 PM
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for the tanning oil what do you use? I see neatsfoot oil and also a orange bottle hide tanning formula, but that sounds like it is the whole deal
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Re: Home tanning.
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I have used all different kinds of tanning oil.The stuff I have right now is a BASF product called PSE.I will soon be out and will just purchase whatever tanning oil is available.
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Re: Home tanning.
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05/06/20 07:31 AM
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Very cool, thanks for sharing!
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Re: Home tanning.
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05/07/20 06:23 AM
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saw a couple beetles yesterday while puttin the last of the fur in the freezer.in your opinion,does freezing kill the bugs??i always thought it did but had a guy tryin to tell me it won't.what say you?
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Re: Home tanning.
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05/07/20 06:52 AM
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saw a couple beetles yesterday while puttin the last of the fur in the freezer.in your opinion,does freezing kill the bugs??i always thought it did but had a guy tryin to tell me it won't.what say you? It definitely slows their sex drive!  Chris
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Re: Home tanning.
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05/07/20 12:12 PM
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The bugs could go dormant in the freezer,they wont be eating your skins or multiplying.They may resume their activity when you pull the skins out at a later date. If I see sign of beetles,I grab the can of raid and give the dry skins a good spray before bagging and into the freezer.
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Re: Home tanning.
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I dont know,never tried it. I know citric acid is safe to work with. Its easily obtainable at the bulk barn,people use it as a food preservative when canning fruit. Should be able to get it anywhere they sell food canning jars and preservatives.
Last edited by Boco; 05/08/20 11:02 PM.
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Re: Home tanning.
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05/11/20 09:23 AM
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Thanks for this tutorial. I've got a fisher in the freezer I was thinking of trying to do as well as a couple coyote hide that were damaged. I was thinking of trying to turn them into something usable and this really helps. Where do you get the aluminum sulfate?
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Re: Home tanning.
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05/11/20 01:00 PM
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Excellent post. Thanks for taking the time to share your process.
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Re: Home tanning.
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05/17/20 12:01 AM
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Hi Boco,
After the hide comes out of the 4 day tan, you said "Once the leather is dry I give the entire skin a wash in dish soap and water,making sure I wash the tanning oil out of the fur.Then rinse well and wring the skin out in a towell."
Is there any concern with washing out the "Tan"?
I've been tanning using EZ-100. Would I be able to wash these hides after tanning and oiling? A quick wash after oiling and drying wont hurt them at all.If you let them soak for a long time it wouldnt be good for the leather. Most tans call for a neutralizing wash right when they come out of the tanning solution,or at least a rinse,I just dry them and work them first.Basically postponing that step.Soap is an alkali so when you give it a wash it is basically doing the same thing as a neutralizing wash,or rinse.Make sure you rinse out the soap well after washing.Also the second light oiling is important also.
Last edited by Boco; 05/17/20 12:03 AM.
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Re: Home tanning.
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05/17/20 05:47 AM
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now behave yourself bubba,your too much fun and have more knowledge than most on here.
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Re: Home tanning.
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05/19/20 01:03 PM
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Can you use solar salt instead of table salt? Can't find bulk bags around me
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Re: Home tanning.
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I dont use table salt.You can use pickleing salt-it is food grade but coarser and no iodine additive like table salt.Sometimes called kosher salt.Sold in grocery stores. If you are doing a lot of tanning you can buy haying salt-it is basically finer crushed rock salt.Thats the most inexpensive way to go. Rock salt is no good-its too coarse. I dont know what solar salt is.
Last edited by Boco; 05/19/20 04:25 PM.
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Re: Home tanning.
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05/22/20 12:53 AM
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Would I need to do any thing different with salted hides.
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Re: Home tanning.
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Just relax the salted/salt dried hides same as dried hides and proceed from there. Be extra careful bending or folding salt dried hides they will crack and damage the leather.Best to dampen them first before bending or folding.
Last edited by Boco; 05/22/20 01:40 AM.
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Re: Home tanning.
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This is a great post. I am going try this on some coon and fox that I kept. Do you leave the thinner skinned critters in the pickle for the same amount of time? I have used all different kinds of tanning oil.The stuff I have right now is a BASF product called PSE.I will soon be out and will just purchase whatever tanning oil is available.
I can't seem to find this one. Is this for conditioning the leather? Is there another oil that would work? When I search for hide tanning oil I get the orange bottle stuff and hide tanning kits.
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Re: Home tanning.
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Should be some tanning oil available from one of the places that supply tanning chemicals like rittels.
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I think this has been asked here before but were can I find the aluminum sulfate and the washing soda what department in a store I have looked every where.
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Re: Home tanning.
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Washing soda should be available where they sell laundry detergent,and aluminum sulfate is sold in home depot or any other garden center-it is used to treat soil for acid loving plants. Just a note of intrest,washing soda is different than baking soda. Washing soda is sodium carbonate. Baking soda is sodium bi-carbonate.
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I should have clarified-the tanning oil you need is what is known as "leather stuffing oil"It is called tanning oil also.It is sold thru Taxidermy supply outlets. I think you got suntanning oil,lol. Did it penetrate the fibres and make the leather soft?
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Re: Home tanning.
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I am taking mine out of the tan today getting ready for the next step.
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