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Beaver bank dens #6872867
05/14/20 11:14 PM
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How do beavers dig their bank dens? Do they dig the dens and then dam the water or do they dig them after the water level topped off? I would assume the lodge is built after the water is at it's highest....


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Re: Beaver bank dens [Re: 20scout] #6872888
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It’s my belief that dens come first. And most lodges start out as a bank den that gets surrounded by water as it rises. Lodge entrances will be on the edge of the original crick channel

Re: Beaver bank dens [Re: 20scout] #6872945
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Got a creek that is full of them. Most are old but some are active. We cut the dam and it exposed a whole plethora of dens like this. Water level dropped about 3 feet after the dam was taken out. There are holes like this every 50 feet or so. Some collapsed and other still looked usable like this one. They may dig nee ones when rains and time.collapse the old ones.
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Re: Beaver bank dens [Re: 20scout] #6872990
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Ive trapper a Quarter mile section like that and caught 22 beaver in front of bank dens all under Ice. 22 is a lot but Ive heard of mor from one section.


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Re: Beaver bank dens [Re: 20scout] #6873161
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Bank dens and brush thickets/overhangs are where beaver live where I trap. I go years at a time without seeing a lodge like you see up Canada way.


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Re: Beaver bank dens [Re: 20scout] #6873214
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When you don't have huts your going to find Den holes If you are finding lots of holes they will most likely be FEED holes. The beaver goes out under the ice gets a stick and may not go to the den but will go to it's feed hole Instead.

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Re: Beaver bank dens [Re: The Beav] #6873242
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Originally Posted by The Beav
When you don't have huts your going to find Den holes If you are finding lots of holes they will most likely be FEED holes. The beaver goes out under the ice gets a stick and may not go to the den but will go to it's feed hole Instead.

Mostly where I trap even den holes are scarce since we have a shifting river and gravel. Brushy overhangs and blackberry thickets is where most of them hang up their caps after they get home from work.


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Re: Beaver bank dens [Re: 20scout] #6873245
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So you don't have Ice.


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Re: Beaver bank dens [Re: 20scout] #6873280
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Your going off topic. I would like to know how/when they build their bank dens. Before it after thet flood the area.


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Re: Beaver bank dens [Re: 20scout] #6873341
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No clue sir. I think digging occurs as needed. Would seem like a beaver wouldn't dig a hole planning for a water rise with their next dam build. I think they are built at below the water level at the time water is there but who knows.
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Re: Beaver bank dens [Re: 20scout] #6873343
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Yep, no ice.

But back on topic...I've never seen one digging out a den, but I suspect that as long as the soil is wet they can do it either way. They can hold their breath under water for 15 minutes so a lot of digging can take place in that span.


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Re: Beaver bank dens [Re: 20scout] #6873353
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No idea which came first but I have seen bank holes exposed when dams were breached and water returned to normal flow level. I would not think a beaver would have dug those holes high and dry so to speak. That would seem to me to be inviting predators like bobcats. And on the under water holes in my neck of the woods, a 330 set in warm weather is almost a guarantee to catch turtles more so than beaver.

I try to use mostly foot holds and snares for nuisance work outside of fur season to avoid non targets in 330s.


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Re: Beaver bank dens [Re: 20scout] #6873364
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Here they live in bank dens and brush piles all summer then in late summer they start building dams and raise the water around the dens . The den entrances are dug under water . If you see one high and dry the water fell away from it . Its rare for them to maintain a dam all year here . If they do its generaly in a seep spring that dosn't run enogh water to wash it out in the summer

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Re: Beaver bank dens [Re: 20scout] #6873378
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Originally Posted by 20scout
Your going off topic. I would like to know how/when they build their bank dens. Before it after thet flood the area.


Not really I have found tons of feed holes that were under the ice. And as far as I could tell they weren't there when I was trapping open water. So they had to be dug under the ice and In most cases were just big enough so the beaver could eat with It's head above the water line. And they all had peeled sticks scattered In front of the holes. The way I discovered this situation was one spring after the water went down I was trapping this area and I found all these small dug holes up In the banks. Just big enough for a beaver to get Into and there were peel sticks in those holes. I soon took advantage of that find next winter when we had Ice. I feel I'ts more efficient To trap these holes then the actual den If you can find them. If the beaver are living In a lodge then I don't think they will build feed holes.

Beaverpeeler Is describing the same situation but with out the ice. I would venture to say that a den hole that Is dug by a beaver or muskrat Is dug from below the surface of the water. In a dam situation the dam would have to be built first to establish the water depth before the den could be dug.


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Re: Beaver bank dens [Re: The Beav] #6873573
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Originally Posted by The Beav
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Your going off topic. I would like to know how/when they build their bank dens. Before it after thet flood the area.


Not really I have found tons of feed holes that were under the ice. And as far as I could tell they weren't there when I was trapping open water. So they had to be dug under the ice and In most cases were just big enough so the beaver could eat with It's head above the water line. And they all had peeled sticks scattered In front of the holes. The way I discovered this situation was one spring after the water went down I was trapping this area and I found all these small dug holes up In the banks. Just big enough for a beaver to get Into and there were peel sticks in those holes. I soon took advantage of that find next winter when we had Ice. I feel I'ts more efficient To trap these holes then the actual den If you can find them. If the beaver are living In a lodge then I don't think they will build feed holes.

Beaverpeeler Is describing the same situation but with out the ice. I would venture to say that a den hole that Is dug by a beaver or muskrat Is dug from below the surface of the water. In a dam situation the dam would have to be built first to establish the water depth before the den could be dug.

Thank you, that explains alot for me.


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