This^^^

Yep, Steven 49er, its just how they get classified. Somebody with stage 4 cancer just enters hospice care and probably has 3 months to live. If they catch or at least test positive for covid and die earlier than the expected 3 months, its a covid death. "Death rates" are all over the place as a percentage of positives. In South Dakota, we're at about 1%, nationally its about 6% last time I did the math. In Michigan, its over 9%. Must be lot of other factors being thrown in than just the virus. Don't hear of any systematic effort to determine what the real death rate is for this thing. No real media coverage that ventilators may not be the best thing to use on really sick patients, heard Gov Cuomo say twice about a month ago that 80% of the people going on ventilators for covid don't come off. That's doesn't sound like a winning strategy. Some Euro researchers are saying this thing is more like high altitude sickness in many cases than a pneumonia and heavy O2 saturation is better than a vent.

https://time.com/5820556/ventilators-covid-19/

https://www.propublica.org/article/ventilators-arent-going-to-cure-covid-19-heres-what-they-can-do

https://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=230110

Me too just had to cut a couple eye holes in it so i could see tho

eye holes and a chin strap for me.i have weak ears to start with.

I have gotten to where I don't believe anything on the internet, and refuse to read that crap anymore. Most disingenuous place to get info there is. Just been in three states picking up fur, and while I took precautions, I never wore a mask and ain't gonna. The only good a mask may do is if you have it. If you don't, you expect a mask to save you against a particle that is so small, it can enter a single cell within your body? Pure unadulterated BS. I'll stay home now.....away from all the crazys!

"Death rates" are all over the place as a percentage of positives.

That's because the number of positives depends on how much testing has been done which makes death rate a completely useless statistic.

Nvwrangler

Left lane, yup an Indian outlaw

Well, that's one way to look at it. And I'm sure that is what's happening for the most part.

I drove one county over where the elected officials aren't as dumb nor Democrat and spent my money. I have a long memory and will continue to frequent the less communist counties even after all this is over! Even if I have to drive an extra 30 min!

Lol

Restrictions were somewhat lifted and several ma and Pa businesses advertised they were opening back up and could use local support to bounce back. So I loaded up the van with my wife and kids just to go spend money at these location to help out.

Went to an ice cream shop 1st. Stopped us at the door and told us we all had to wear gloves, mask, stay six ft apart, only 5 allowed in store at one time (family of six!!!!!!!), And kids couldn't serve themselves!!! This was all their choice!!!!!!!!! No commie Democrat Mayor telling them to do it! Their choice! Told them they obviously didn't need my support and we went down the road to the next ma and Pa ice cream shop.

Did this all afternoon spending money where there were no restrictions and taking notes on the ones who were still being idiots!

Lots of places that I use to frequent pushed me to other places I've never frequented!

And yes

I have quickly come to the conclusion this whole thing is a ploy by sick individuals in positions of high influence and power to win the next election by destroying a historically high economy and pushing for mail in ballots!

The science that is scaring everyone is a joke manipulated by commie pukes, push by their handlers and spread by gullable fearfull people!

Yup, their choice. I don't see a problem with that.

They exercised their freedom, you exercised yours by not doing business there. Precisely how it should be.

For those concerned about masks and safety.


I don't sneeze as much liquid as i use to be able to (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman).
I don't sneeze or pee on people,
I try not to pee my pants.
I hope this helps.