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Re: Has anyone tried a itty bitty mud motor [Re: Catch22] #6882242
05/25/20 08:50 PM
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Thanks Moosey, i'll check them out.


I wonder if tap dancers walk into a room, look at the floor, and think, I'd tap that. I wonder about things.....
Re: Has anyone tried a itty bitty mud motor [Re: Catch22] #6882252
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Catch, don’t rule out an electric trolling motor. I have the same size canoe and brand of canoe. On a creek that little trolling motor can go faster than I want! Good for a half day of fun.

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Re: Has anyone tried a itty bitty mud motor [Re: Catch22] #6882256
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Unless you get up on plane, a boat's speed is limited to it's "hull speed" or displacement speed. This is as fast as you can go before you outrun your bow wave. Once you outrun, and get up on top of, your bow wave, you are on plane. I don't think I want to be in a canoe on plane. And, it takes a lot more hp to get up over that bow wave so it might only take 2hp to go 6mph but it takes 8hp to go 7mph.

Hull Speed (in knots)= square root of waterline length in feet x 1.35. I don't know how big your canoe is but if you're water line length is 15', your hull speed is 5 knots or 6 mph. A 2 hp outboard should push a canoe that fast. It would take a lot more motor to go faster so there isn't much point in going bigger. I would buy a used 3 or 4 hp outboard.


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Re: Has anyone tried a itty bitty mud motor [Re: Catch22] #6882285
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I went with a beaverdammudrunner kit for my lil 6.5hp. I got a 60in shaft instead of the 80in they normally send and I'm impressed with it. A 14x36 flat bottom with two guys and gear will do 14mph

Re: Has anyone tried a itty bitty mud motor [Re: Catch22] #6882578
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A outboard of small hp, has much more push than a small mud motor of same hp, in mud motors, u have to get more HP. There not fun to control one. Like previous post, noisy, lot vibrations. Can be hard control. I not sure if theuafe them so imposible to easily swing up in boat. Az I heard ppl hit stump or something with tail an prop an tail an prop have swivel around up into boat an prop hit operater, I believe they come with switch with something on hand or arm, or hand on steer control lever. So if something happen, u leave control lever or fly out boat, that shut engine down

Re: Has anyone tried a itty bitty mud motor [Re: Catch22] #6882598
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Thanks coonman. I'll have a electric motor like Hawker suggested for trolling around. I would like to try something to get through some swamps so i'm not sure yet what I'll go with. Whatever it is I'd like it to have it's own gas tank so I don't have to fool with a big tank in my way.


I wonder if tap dancers walk into a room, look at the floor, and think, I'd tap that. I wonder about things.....
Re: Has anyone tried a itty bitty mud motor [Re: Catch22] #6882607
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I had one yrs ago, I think a 12 hp, was expensive. Heavy, I didn't like it, noisy. Hard control, lot vibrations throughout boat an my hand. Not sure what they have for mud motors nowadays

Re: Has anyone tried a itty bitty mud motor [Re: Catch22] #6882698
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I've run a two HP evenrude on my thirteen ft monarch canoe, and you would swear you would be able to water ski behind it! Course it isn't as sporty when you get it full of beaver or coon! Had a square back grumman that I used a couple times, but the canoe was so heavy, at the end of the day, I couldn't hardly get it on top the truck. Small boat motors will work far better than any kind of long tail on a canoe, unless your dirty and really want a bath without soap!


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Re: Has anyone tried a itty bitty mud motor [Re: Catch22] #6882761
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Lol Lee, I think a small 2-5 hp old motor would be just fine. There are some swamps I'd like to get back in far enough to trap turtles, may have to pass on that in a canoe. I've seen some short shafts on craigslist, I'll be patient and stealthy lol.


I wonder if tap dancers walk into a room, look at the floor, and think, I'd tap that. I wonder about things.....
Re: Has anyone tried a itty bitty mud motor [Re: Catch22] #6882767
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Originally Posted by Catch22
Lol, for the love of all that's right. This is what I'm talkin bout. Anyone have thoughts or suggestions besides putting a Hemi on it. grin grin



Obviously he doesn't trust it, he's got two other motors on board, lol


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Originally Posted by Catch22
Lol, for the love of all that's right. This is what I'm talkin bout. Anyone have thoughts or suggestions besides putting a Hemi on it. grin grin


7.3 power stroke will give ya what's ya got have.


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Re: Has anyone tried a itty bitty mud motor [Re: Catch22] #6882924
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Originally Posted by Catch22
Lol, for the love of all that's right. This is what I'm talkin bout. Anyone have thoughts or suggestions besides putting a Hemi on it. grin grin


Ad a blower and some nitromethane to the Hemi and I think your on to something. smile


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Re: Has anyone tried a itty bitty mud motor [Re: Catch22] #6882961
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I want my boat to be built like me, built for comfort not for speed. grin


I wonder if tap dancers walk into a room, look at the floor, and think, I'd tap that. I wonder about things.....
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