long range scopes for 1022s update
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I seen a year or two ago a scope for a 1022 that you sighted in at 25 or 50 yard and used the mil dots cross hair lines out to 250 yard I seen them do it on TV I can't remember what they started at it was 25 or 50 yards shooting exploding target out to 250 yards I looked them up at the time but can't find them again.I have look all over the place. thought I would ask to see if any one else seen it to.
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Re: long range scopes for 1022s
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How do you compensate for wind that far away? Is a 10-22 accurate enough to hit a squirrel head at those distances? What kind of ammo do you need? If a stock rifle is not accurate enough what do you have to do to get it that way? How fast is the average 40 grain bullet traveling at 200 yards if it leaves the barrel at 1250?
I know thats a lot of questions but i don't know anything about long range shooting.
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Re: long range scopes for 1022s
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some friends build 1MOA 10/22s
they start with a stock 10/22 remove the barrel , face off .070" recut the extractor groove and push the shoulder forward some , and re-chamber with a Bents reamer , then re-crown the muzzle
strip the stock , add a grip cap , remove the barrel band , mill out the stock so that the barrel has no way to touch wood.
cut a dove tail in the back of the reciver and add a rear action screw , the glas bed the action in the stock.
radius the back of the bolt , stone and buff the bolt
a trigger job , EGW 20MOA rail and an optic I know for their accuracy testing a 6x24 scope is used CCI standard velocity and 1 inch groups at 100 yards
when they brig out the steel targets to play they have a target rack where the targets are bolt heads the largest is about 1 inch and that is the rack of targets for 50 yards
part of the game played is targets at random distances out to 225 yards or there about , you get a size for the target 2 , 4 , 6 , 8 inches ext and you have to range the target , dope your scope and fire hits count misses don't in this game missing the target distance calculation by 10 yards can mean a miss
you can buy a ready made guns from a few manufacturers they are not cheap 1K or more to get into a 10/22 like that
for a great learning experience with less specialized equipment 22 silhouettes is a great sport you can shoot it with a number of guns and mor normal optics a set os steel targets are not that expensive and you place them on a rail at 40 , 60 ,77 and 100 meters this is what our 4-H kids shoot.
at 100 meters most 22lr ammo has between 6 and 8 MOA drop and a 7mph wind can blow you off a target with a center hold you get time to shoot so a bolt action gun is often used
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Re: long range scopes for 1022s
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I seen a year or two ago a scope for a 1022 that you sighted in at 25 or 50 yard and used the mil dots cross hair lines out to 250 yard I seen them do it on TV I can't remember what they started at it was 25 or 50 yards shooting exploding target out to 250 yards I looked them up at the time but can't find them again.I have look all over the place. thought I would ask to see if any one else seen it to. I think it was Top Shot a reality Tv shooting competition , to even be able to see the hits they used a contact explosive on the target (similar to what my old chemistry teacher would mix up and put onthe floor when the bell rang to scrae the crap our of the kid who came in late just stepping on it made a POP.) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_Shot
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Re: long range scopes for 1022s
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I looked at the subject of an accurate but light,1022 from all different angles.I didn't want the expense of a finished,Volquartzen so I priced out all the parts I would need to trick out a 1022 and it was going to cost me about $700 plus labor.I had been looking into the Tactical Solutions rifles but had not handled one.One day I found one,exactly the color I was looking for.After handling it,I bought it on the spot,app. $650.It has a CNC machined receiver with integral,pictatinny rail,rear clean out hole,tensioned,threaded,aluminum barrel,their best trigger,takes any Ruger parts and out of the box,easily shoots less than a minute of angle.
I have head shot ground squirrels,the size of gray squirrels at 100 yds.I need a decent wind for that and have no need to shoot farther with this rifle.I wanted it for a light weight,hunting rifle and that is exactly what I got.With scope,rings and sling,it weighs the same as a stripped .22.
Sorry,I'm not much help with the long range scope.It is just too windy out here for me to shoot much past 100 yrs with a .22,when it is windy.
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Re: long range scopes for 1022s
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Ammo is a bigger problem with "long range" , if your going to put together a high dollar shooter, be prepared to buy top quality ammo.
I used to put on a benchrest rim fire silhouette shoot. Full size rimfire chickens 75 yards, pigs 100 yards , turkeys 125 yards and rams at 150. 5 shots at each then we would set up the 1/2 targets. Best guns on the line with cheap ammo rarely scored above 30 out of 40. rams are the toughest with poor ammo.
When we finished we shot a jackpot shoot of eggs at 200 yards. Great fun, but most guys would get upset that the guns that shot dime groups at 50 yards fell apart at the farther ranges.
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Re: long range scopes for 1022s
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you don't really need a special scope 250 is still not far distance just far for a 22lr
what you need to see really doesn't change
a 4-12 with a MOA retical would be good target turrets might be nice to dial in corrections and return to zero easily
what you really need is the ability to accurately measure the target to range it , then to be able to see where the dust comes up in relation to where you held and make a quick adjustment to you hold
something like a Vortex Diamond back tactical 4-12x40
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You will need a tapered scope rail at that distance. don't know if they make one that will fit a 10/22. Just plugged in the numbers. .22 high velocity at 250 yds: 78" bullet drop, 828 ft/s, 61 ft lbs energy, 31" wind drift in a 10mph wind. I don't think you'll hit much at that distance.
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Re: long range scopes for 1022s
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this isn't the scope I use on my 22lr I also haven't tried 22 past about 210 yards but I have this scope on one of my 308 rifles so to play with the numbers a bit this is about what a 250 yard shot would look like this is dialed up 10MOA just to get the target on the retical and the target size is 12 inch
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i worked on the trigger of mine but everything else is stock. with cci standard velocity lr 40 grain ammo, on a windless day it will shoot quarters at 50 yards. i never shot it at 100. 800 fps at distance is still definitely capable of being lethal
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i worked on the trigger of mine but everything else is stock. with cci standard velocity lr 40 grain ammo, on a windless day it will shoot quarters at 50 yards. i never shot it at 100. 800 fps at distance is still definitely capable of being lethal the IDF figured that out , they would break up Palestinian riots by shooting the instigators with a 10/22 and standard velocity ammo very large suppressor to make it very quiet , they aimed for the knee but sometimes missed and got the inside of the thigh or groin and found out that was lethal . their prim minister ordered a study on the lethality in 2003 and in 2004 they could not use the 10/22 on protesters any longer
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When I was a teenage, I had a semi auto that I think was a Glenfield. Probably got it used for $25 or less. That was 60 years ago. I made some incredible shots on treetop squirrels. Those that ran through the tree tops got the rapid fire treatment until they finally ran into some lead.
Used to go to the town dump and shoot rats. Kids did stuff like that back then.
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Re: long range scopes for 1022s
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I looked up shepard scopes. More doo dads than a 1969 reel to reel stereo. Think if i need to shoot 250 yards with a 22 I will use a centerfire. For squirrels I will just get closer.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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