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Should we cut all welfare in the burned out shole cities and give it to the business owners to relocate or rebuild ?
What say you ?
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Re: Welfare
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You think the lifers will run out and get a job if they do that? LOL
Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!
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Re: Welfare
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YES!
My Dad started farming in 1932, in the 'Great Depression'. It was a matter of if you don't work, you don't eat. He put 720 acres of land together, and now I'm the 'Chief Cook and Bottle Washer' President of the family corporation.
Charlie
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Re: Welfare
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You think the lifers will run out and get a job if they do that? LOL Not necessarily , but why should we take care of them ?
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Re: Welfare
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Some will get a job , some will kill each other , and some will kill themselves
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Re: Welfare
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If there is no welfare money to spend at the stores who would rebuild a store there. Those stores made all their money from welfare too.
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Re: Welfare
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YES!
My Dad started farming in 1932, in the 'Great Depression'. It was a matter of if you don't work, you don't eat. He put 720 acres of land together, and now I'm the 'Chief Cook and Bottle Washer' President of the family corporation.
Charlie That's great Chas! I know a ranching family here that was started by a homesteader that lived in a haystack, and the haystack burned down. They're still here, and doing very well. Folks today have no idea what tough is.
Life ain't supposed to be easy.
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Re: Welfare
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Some will get a job , some will kill each other , and some will kill themselves
Some will pray on the old and the weak a person has to think twice before protecting themselves now.
Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!
Jerry Herbst
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YES!
My Dad started farming in 1932, in the 'Great Depression'. It was a matter of if you don't work, you don't eat. He put 720 acres of land together, and now I'm the 'Chief Cook and Bottle Washer' President of the family corporation.
Charlie That’s good stuff.
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Re: Welfare
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I am for doing good to the poor, but...I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. I observed...that the more public provisions were made for the poor, the less they provided for themselves, and of course became poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the more they did for themselves, and became richer.
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Re: Welfare
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I am for doing good to the poor, but...I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. I observed...that the more public provisions were made for the poor, the less they provided for themselves, and of course became poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the more they did for themselves, and became richer.
Benjamin Franklin
I work for social services and you are 100% correct. It is too easy to get on benefits and stay on benefits. Free medical, free food, free heat, section 8 pays the rent and gives a utility allowance. Free cell phones. Meanwhile, they are working under the table and taking their kids on vacation. I've seen more than my fair share in the 11 years in this job. Someday I'm going to write a book about it
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Re: Welfare
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The problem with hand outs is I see that they help enable folks, I often see the same folks we arrest on the weekends getting the freebies so the can better budget their drug/booze money.
Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!
Jerry Herbst
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Re: Welfare
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If there is no welfare money to spend at the stores who would rebuild a store there. Those stores made all their money from welfare too. Maybe in Canada. But, I seriously doubt that here in the US, they didn't make ALL their money from welfare.
The difference between animals and humans is that animals would never let the dumbest ones lead the pack.
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No. We should not give it to the business owners, either.
And, we should cut off most welfare to rural areas same as the crummy cities. I'd be surprised if the welfare per capita is any higher in the city than it is in the rural areas.
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I am for doing good to the poor, but...I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. I observed...that the more public provisions were made for the poor, the less they provided for themselves, and of course became poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the more they did for themselves, and became richer.
Benjamin Franklin
I work for social services and you are 100% correct. It is too easy to get on benefits and stay on benefits. Free medical, free food, free heat, section 8 pays the rent and gives a utility allowance. Free cell phones. Meanwhile, they are working under the table and taking their kids on vacation. I've seen more than my fair share in the 11 years in this job. Someday I'm going to write a book about it That sounds just like it is in MN. People move here for all the free stuff. And the folks getting all the free stuff have been told by the people forcing the people who are paying for the free stuff that the people paying for the free stuff are mean, prejudiced, and racist. So, the people getting the free stuff don't like the people paying for the free stuff.
The difference between animals and humans is that animals would never let the dumbest ones lead the pack.
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Re: Welfare
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^^^^^^ How true Trapper 7
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