Re: Union Poll
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06/24/20 09:29 AM
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To a point. I made really good money being in the pipe fitters union. But they protected the lazy SOBs that worked right along side of me. I normally ran jobs and I would have a lazy SOB on the job and I would lay him off. But the union would just send him out on some other job.
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Re: Union Poll
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To a point. I made really good money being in the pipe fitters union. But they protected the lazy SOBs that worked right along side of me. I normally ran jobs and I would have a lazy SOB on the job and I would lay him off. But the union would just send him out on some other job. That hasn't changed.
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Re: Union Poll
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Worked 12 years in the Plumbers Pipefitters Union. There were good points and bad. Some very talented and hardworking tradesman. Biggest gripe, besides union dues going directly to the liberal candidates, was the major raiding of our pension fund to build a huge hotel in Tampa, Florida. The hotel ended up costing close to 600 million dollars but was only appraised at a little over 300 million dollars when completed. The National Union board members were unable to pay back the pension funds and were brought up on charges. The local union members had an additional $2.00 per hour taken from our checks to replenish the money pilfered from OUR pensions for this boondoggle. Upset a lot of members at that time and for those that remained it still holds a bitter taste.
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Re: Union Poll
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Was in the Teamsters in Chicago 701 and 731 and steel workers, neither was worth anything just glorified insurance company with poor service.
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Re: Union Poll
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Simple question for all you union men, the true believers not the extorted.
You happy with what your union dues have bought? No !!! Unions never did squat for me except steal my dues money, and use it to elect Liberal Progressive Democrats I deployed the Supreme Court's Janus Decision, and opted out of my last union 1st chance I got. Unions are a carbuncle on the arse of the working man !!! w
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Re: Union Poll
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If It wasn't for the unions you would all be working for $8.00 an hour.
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Re: Union Poll
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At $8 per hour we could put India and China out of business and our products and services would be affordable maybe.
Never belonged to a union. Worked for a life insurance company for 15 years before retiring. About 10% of the agents belonged to a union. Only one of them was a decent producer. The others were complainers and always negative. Low production caused most to eliminate themselves.
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Re: Union Poll
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If It wasn't for the unions you would all be working for $8.00 an hour. But we'd be able to actually buy something with that 8.00....
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Re: Union Poll
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Simple question for all you union men, the true believers not the extorted.
You happy with what your union dues have bought? No !!! Unions never did squat for me except steal my dues money, and use it to elect Liberal Progressive Democrats I deployed the Supreme Court's Janus Decision, and opted out of my last union 1st chance I got. Unions are a carbuncle on the arse of the working man !!! w They have a 10$ magazine you had to buy also?
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Re: Union Poll
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The railroad union was strong when I started out and made a lot of great gains for the workers in health and safety,hours/pay/vacation,also job security and pensions/retirements as well as benefits. When the workforce got pared back,the union did not have the strength in numbers like before,and the company started to take advantage right away every chance they could and try to pare back the gains made by the workers over the years. Once this started it was like a cancer and more work was contracted out,the quality of the work was poor by the contract companys and the costs to the company rose because of the inferior maintenance.The contractors had no stake in the well being of the company like the union workers did. To give an example,when I started we had a section gang of 6 men for 25 miles of track.The track and right of way was maintained to the highest standards and track defects were rare as problems were fixed before they deteriorated, As the workforce was reduced it was down to 2 men for 80 miles of track-no heavy work could be done by 2 men,when a defect was found a slow order was placed and trains backed up until a work crew could be called in to make repairs. After a while the track was so bad the trains were crawling along customers were lost to trucking and the whole thing went downhill. Once the unions were weakened and the workforce gutted,it didnt take long before the infrastructure went all to pot and everything -service-profits went with it. Glad I got out with a decent pension when I did-the way the company was being run by incompetent yes men made me agitated whenever I had to deal with management.
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