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Why is testing bad? #6923085
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I read lots of quotes from sources who blame the increase in Covid-19 infections on increased testing? Why would we not wish to know about the growing problem and who might need to know they are infected? I do not understand this. I know it is political but we can't just wish it away by not testing people - can we?

Please help me understand why it is not good to know that the infection rate if growing?

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The increase in cases is reported to spread fear so itís all over the news, once the death rate dropped off they stopped reporting those numbers.


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Well here In Dane county WI It's a 4 hour wait to get tested. I guess I'll take my chances.


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How do we know it's growing? They weren't giving this amount of test in March. If you test more you are going to have more positives. It's set up that way. The one thing you never hear about is the death rate. Wonder what it is at present? I know you are scared Charles. Stay at home as much as you can and it may take longer for the virus to infect you. I'm afraid however, you will eventually get the virus. The common cold has never been cured and I figure Covid 19 won't either.


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NBC News just covered the fact that the death rate is steeply going down, while the number of known cases is steeply going up. They said the reason is that mostly young healthy people are getting infected now.

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Originally Posted by J Staton
How do we know it's growing? They weren't giving this amount of test in March. If you test more you are going to have more positives. It's set up that way. The one thing you never hear about is the death rate. Wonder what it is at present? I know you are scared Charles. Stay at home as much as you can and it may take longer for the virus to infect you. I'm afraid however, you will eventually get the virus. The common cold has never been cured and I figure Covid 19 won't either.

This is correct^^^

It's a virus. All of us will be exposed eventually.

Why bother with a test? If you test negative today you may be exposed tommorrow.


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Re: Why is testing bad? [Re: charles] #6923111
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We are updateted every day. It tells us how many are tested It tells how many tested positive and how many were hospitalized. And the death rate. Pretty straight forward information.


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When was the last time you heard about the daily death rate since it started to go down, not much. CBS news tonight focused on the projection of hitting 200,000 In 5 months to keep the fear going.


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I will bet money that if Biden wins, this whole virus "thingy" will fail to raise a blip on news media's radar...


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Why would you not want to know that you were carrying a highly infectious disease? That is the question. Should we treat 100% of the population to curb the spread, or treat nobody and let the chips fall where they may? Which is it?

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Originally Posted by Law Dog
The increase in cases is reported to spread fear so itís all over the news, once the death rate dropped off they stopped reporting those numbers.


Sooner infected people most younger find out, they can stay away from older less healthy family members.
Maybe be smart and stay away from others their age though I doubt it. Its not about them selves like Trump always thinks. It about others like normal people think.
My wife is a nurse and past director of nurses at a large long term care facility.
They shut down early before white house even signed on. Their infection control person said gov. Is not correct in down playing this. As of now. The only unit in Mass. Without the virus. No deaths... no staff sick.
Ounce of prevention is worth a pound on cure.
No tin foil hats needed either
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Cripes.......this will never end.
I'm taking some Grandkids fishin tomorrow. Icky worms and everything.


I know I'm paranoid......but am I paranoid ENOUGH???
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Gary I'm afraid the genie is out of the bottle and you're right, it will never end.


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Originally Posted by Gary Benson
Cripes.......this will never end.
I'm taking some Grandkids fishin tomorrow. Icky worms and everything.


Make sure you wear your masks and practice social distancing. grin

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You really think this infection is political? What about jock itch and toenail fungus?

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They said the masks will be in fashion for years to come 2-3 maybe.


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The virus isn't political , but the media coverage sure is .

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Originally Posted by charles
Why would you not want to know that you were carrying a highly infectious disease? That is the question. Should we treat 100% of the population to curb the spread, or treat nobody and let the chips fall where they may? Which is it?

What are you going to treat them with? There is no proven prevention or cure. The shut downs and social distancing probably slowed the spread and that was what it was intended to do. This virus will run it course, it just may take a little longer. The increase in the number of positive test results is proof of that.

As stated earlier, a lot more folks are getting tested since the testing capabilities and availability have improved. And many of the new positive results are younger, seemingly healthy folks who do not have symptoms. As the positives increase and the deaths decline, this virus certainly does not appear to be the mass killer that we have been told it was. This does not mean it is not serious, especially for the more vulnerable, but it is not proving to be as bad as the early predictions indicated.

The medical field opening back up to do elective procedures is accounting for some of the increased testing and some places will now test anyone who wants to be tested. I was tested prior to a surgical procedure last week and will be tested again this week prior to another procedure.


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Originally Posted by charles
I read lots of quotes from sources who blame the increase in Covid-19 infections on increased testing? Why would we not wish to know about the growing problem and who might need to know they are infected? I do not understand this. I know it is political but we can't just wish it away by not testing people - can we?

Please help me understand why it is not good to know that the infection rate if growing?


Number one. To know if the infection rate is increasing or decreasing you have to divide the number of people infected by the number of people tested.

Number two. You have to test the same way. Early much of the testing was done on people who showed symptoms. Now much of the testing is done on random people although some testing is through tracing targeted groups who are likely infected. The number of positives doubling when you are doubling the number of tests means the same infection rate.

In some cases increasing daily numbers is just a reflection of increased amount of testing. You don't have to keep increasing testing to get the infection rate.

Number three. You can't add antibody positives in new cases. Those are old cases.



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