How would you propose society stops people from being gay?

This stuff has been around since the beginning of man, so ask yourself why has it flourished in the last 30 years.
As far as them trying to tell others how to live or hurting others through violence or theft we are there and it started with tolerance. If not explain to me how we got were we are now.

So we shouldn't tolerate anyone that is different?

Tolerating people’s sexual preferences does not lead to violence or theft. (Unless you are talking violence towards gay people) If you believe that it does, your own personal bias tied to your family/community culture has clouded your vision on the issue.

Snow
How do you change people's moral values? Just like murder, some will always do it and there were societies that even embraced it but they can be changed.

Moral breakdown leads to violence and theft

Poverty leads to violence and theft.

Sexual preference having to do with morality is a man made idea.

That attitude is why if you send your kids to public school they may end up having some man in a dress read them books. "do whatever you want we dont care" next thing they are chemically castrating kids and men in dresses are being told how beautiful they are as they strut in front of them and follow your daughter into the target bathroom.

Danny
I didn't say thats a very big and complicated discussion that I can't get into right. Tolerance is as necessary as justice to a society up to a point. Something we can tolerate and somethings we can't. There is a serious moral shift in this country, is it good is it bad...??? Look around and decide for yourself.

ask yourself who is paying for the bricks being delivered. Look bigger picture friend.

Morality deals with choice.

Homosexuality is something people are born with. To say they are immoral bc they accept it is hilarious.

Chemical casration is something our moral society once imposed on gays. Worrying we will be chemically castrated because of tolerance is laughable.

Murder is punished with prison or death. Yes, there will always be murderers, we need swift justice to deal with that. Consequences should be a deterrent.

Do we penalize sexuality?

What moral code do we, as a nation, use? Christianity? Islam? Paganism? Heathenry?

This is untrue, if it was true South Dakota would of been a blood bath for decades.

South Dakota is below the national average for poverty.

Just bc you don’t like the fact that poverty leads to theft and violence doesn’t make it untrue.

Poverty is the measure at which the government can buy its way into your life.

Moral bankruptcy is where the violence comes from.

I can tell you have never been to large areas of SD, especially in the 90s

Poverty simply does not lead to violence, that is a false statement, because you have been told it does does not make it true.

Areas with a high GINI coefficient do have increased violence, areas of poverty with a low GINI coefficient DO NOT have increased violence.

loosegoose, your statement of, " I'll be the first to say that adults can do what the want with who they want, dress how they want, call themselves what they want, whatever. Not my business. is the old Phil Donahue talking point of liberals in "what goes on behind closed doors is no ones business". I'm not challenging you, but asking you to consider how talking points by liberals were used to take this from skinheads knocking homosexuals around to this sex group destroying companies for not complying with their agenda.

Adults doing what they want and who they want? I know you are not saying that includes children, but this group in NAMBLA wants to make that legal. What if someone behind closed doors wants to degrade someone in beating on them or doing other disgusting things? Is that ok? These are rhetorical points as sooner or later you will reach your limit point of your saying, "There are limits what adults can do, just like in all society, because what goes on behind closed doors, always is carried to the outside world and it is the way these people treat others."
Bill Bennett of the Reagan Administration once said, "It is only homosexuals who are in psychiatrists offices telling doctors how miserable they are".

I will make the point that everyone of us is in this together. What you do affects everyone here, just as much how I conduct my life affects everyone here. If I fathered half a dozen kids out of wedlock and was not paying child support as numbers do, then that is taking money you earn and forcing you to pay to raise other people's responsibilities. When someone spreads a plague, it costs all of us in our lives. I break this down to historical realities of the homosapien or people. Where did our societal norms arise? Some will say the Bible and some will say it was Darwin cavemen, but what was the standard which made a society or tribe?
As this is a teaching lesson for all, to undo the talking points, It was learned that a male female union was only what sustained, because if a king was having all the sex with all the women, the other men were not going to go out and defend someone else's children.
People worked hard and warred hard, and accumulated wealth, and if they did not have children, then all that was in vain. Children were key, because when the old workers and soldiers aged, they needed children to take their place in production and defense, and to care for their parents. Again a rhetorical question, does a homosexual have the right to self gratify in sex, when no other group does, and we are left with the responsibility of working ourselves to death to raise children, who then are supposed to die defending a homosexual's stock portfolio? That is economic enslavement and no one in a Constitutional society can be made to forfeit their resources when the other person is not forfeiting their resources equally.

What began as laws protecting society from the deviancy, and anything that deviates from what propagates society is deviancy, has under Barack Obama, John Roberts and Neil Gorsuch the promotion of one groups sexual actions over the majority group. So that makes it all of our business, as this is our life, our liberty and our pursuit of moral happiness. it is responsible liberty because liberty without responsibility is license.

The entire homosexual agenda is but a stepping stone to the legalization of pedophilia. John Kerry's daughter at the 2004 DNC in a speech which has been removed, changed the wording to, "It's a child's right to choose". This all began in the 1960's in the counter culture, which propagandized the lie that all of us could do whatever we wanted, as the government would steal money from others to pay for it, and abortion would kill the problems. There simply are not enough Christians anymore in America to keep the society from imploding, which 2020 is manifesting. There is not law anymore, but people above the law and people who are criminalized by the law for being moral. In America, almost 70% of people polled felt intimidated in they could not express their views anymore. We are a quantifying people now, as loosegoose began this in having to make an excuse before he stated what he believed. We have a stutter step in speech and that is from conditioning.

All of us are in this together, and when one group rots the barrel, it rots everyone and America's massive debt, constant fighting and lawlessness all stems from violations of the societal norms which keep civilization together.

Fruit bagery was not tolerated by the good Lord himself

And acceptance may turn you into a pillar of salt

We disagree Donner.

I’m basing my decision on socioeconomic studies and connections to crime. Poverty, parenting, self esteem, addiction.

Not gayness.

But lol, if we believe in our Constitution and embrace Freedom what loosey goosey said is correct. Is it not? People have stopped others themselves from things like being queers in public and such, not Law. I've seen it. Law hasn't been keeping these people at bay for a while now. The worm has turned though and there's more people who support the odd Freedom's, Freedom's nonetheless.

I am the same way, I do not care what anyone else does as long as it's legal, and don't darken my door. If you want to dress in a furry chipmunk suit, go out to the park to read and eat fancy cheese, go for it. Where I do care is no reciprocity to allow me to do my thing, and that is happening.