Re: Should the US apologize for Hiroshima?
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No ...and why throw it out there to be debated???
6 pages so far suggests it's a worthy discussion. I, for one, have found many of the opinions interesting and educational.
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Re: Should the US apologize for Hiroshima?
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No apology to anyone.
Millions of lives were saved by dropping the bombs.
People today are not being taught history anymore.
Seems only the older Americans who lived through the war understand the reality of the day.
The greatest generation is slowly declining, and memories are fading,
We are now left with left leaning pinko historians that are attempting to change the realities of that generation and the war itself.
Again, millions of lives on both sides were saved, because a frontal assault upon Japan itself was avoided.
I am very fortunate to live by having a living breathing Spanish- American War Veteran as a Grand Father.
The whole neighborhood where I lived was full of real Americans that fought in WWI, WWII, and also Korea.
My memories are of real men, strong, with valor, and patriotism.
And I pray that God keep them all under His protective wing.
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Re: Should the US apologize for Hiroshima?
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i say we apologize with a couple more.
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Re: Should the US apologize for Hiroshima?
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Maybe we should apologize for James for asking the question.
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Re: Should the US apologize for Hiroshima?
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Maybe we should apologize for James for asking the question. we'd have to apologize cause there's no excuse.
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Re: Should the US apologize for Hiroshima?
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An apology would send the wrong signal. Appeasement of aggression is a losing proposition. Without those bombs we might still be trying to dig diehards out of Japanese caves.
I passed through the area on a troop train in December 1951 and saw a twisted end of a steel bridge sticking up in the air.
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Re: Should the US apologize for Hiroshima?
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Well, I have a deep respect for the Japanese people; I have a deep respect for the German people. Both "people" were controlled by a minority leadership that in turn controlled the direction of their country, plunging them into world war. Those of you who think both countries deserve what they got and that their people should have defended their own rights more strongly, should look at the current condition of our country. There is an all-out battle for the heart and soul of our country, with anarchy and chaos winning the day in some cities.
The difficult part about war is that the casualties of war are not limited to just the willing combatants; innocent lives (i.e. bystanders, ordinary citizens, and even those who oppose the war) often represent the majority of the casualties. I am sorry for the incomprehensible tragedy, pain, loss of life, suffering and death caused in WWII . . . which includes Hiroshima and Nagasaki, but also includes Pear Harbor, Okinawa, and the islands of the Pacific. Following WWII, the US and its allies assisted Japan in rebuilding, provided foreign aid and protection, helping to make Japan a world leader in research, technology and industry. Today the Japanese people are once again a strong, proud, independent people. I think we've done our part to say we are sorry for the loss of life, but we make no apology for defending our country and our freedom.
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Re: Should the US apologize for Hiroshima?
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Re: Should the US apologize for Hiroshima?
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Innocent people always die in a war. Civilians died at Pearl Harbor. I dont have a clue why The Emperor of Japan thought teaming up with Hitler and attacking the U.S. were good ideas. I don't know why they tortured American P.O.W.s and made young Chinese and Korean girls into sex slaves. I don't know why the U.S. didn't try and hang people for doing that. I feel as a country we treated Germany and Japan MUCH MUCH MUCH better than they would have treated us had the roles been reversed.
We don't owe either country an apology for anything.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Should the US apologize for Hiroshima?
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the Japanese were far more inhuman to their victims than the Nazis of the holocaust. Even Hitler censured them for their human rights abuses. A popular game among Jap soldiers in China was to throw Chinese babies up in the air and see how many could be caught on a bayonet. Such brutality was encouraged. Nan King, Unit 731... unimaginable. They made Dr. Mengele look like Mother Theresa. The entire population was at fault for allowing their nation to do such atrocities. No American should feel any remorse for doing anything at all to put an immediate stop to their horrific acts.
Plus, I think it was important to let Mother Russia know that we have the bomb and are willing to use it.
Too bad we couldn't have done it sooner.
What from Christ that soul can sever, Bound by everlasting bands? None shall take thee From the Strength of Israel's hands.
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Re: Should the US apologize for Hiroshima?
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Here's my Dad in 1944. As recently as last year, he was still not a fan of anything or anyone Japanese. So pretty sure he hasn't forgiven them. And apologize? LOL
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Re: Should the US apologize for Hiroshima?
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I talked to my Uncle several years ago about this subject. Uncle Francis was in the Navy during WWII and was on a destroyer, what boat I can't remember. Unk. told me that if we had not dropped those bombs on Japan it would have cost the U. S. THOUSANDS OF LIVES. He said if we had not dropped the bombs we would have had to fight every person in Japan house to house. Said we would have had to fight women, old men, kids, from door to door. I wasn't there, but he was and I trust his word.
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Re: Should the US apologize for Hiroshima?
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Danny’s post says everything I think on the subject.
DaveP my grandfather was at Okinawa. He was not a fan either
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Re: Should the US apologize for Hiroshima?
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It seem there's philosophical debate these past 10 years about the morals of America, more so than any other time I recall. The 1960's children, are thankfully retiring from all the institutional portions they've held for 5-6 decades, so maybe the teaching/governance/morals/etc. will change for the better. Maybe these educated hippies will apologize for screwing up this country Prolly not, and their kids, and kid's kids have picked up their secular banner. God help us.
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Re: Should the US apologize for Hiroshima?
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Why are we the only ones who have to play by the rules .Who started the war?
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Re: Should the US apologize for Hiroshima?
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Should the Japanese people today apologize to the US for their attack on Pearl Harbor and starting the war with the US? 2,403 people died in that attack -- 2,335 military personnel and 68 civilians. How many people died during this war as a result of Japan's decision to attack the US?
Are there any Japanese people alive today who took part in that decision to invade and bomb Pearl Harbor? Do you believe any of the Japanese people today are responsible for the attack on Pearl Harbor and the subsequent war nearly 80 years ago?
But that doesn't mean we can't express regret and pity for those who cart out such inane and useless propositions for the purpose of chastening America because it's easy sport. I agree with you. Wasn't the attack on Pearl Harbor a preemptive strike with their main target being the Philippines?
The difference between animals and humans is that animals would never let the dumbest ones lead the pack.
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