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michigan trappers survey? #6968463
08/19/20 11:35 AM
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swampbeast Offline OP
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Hello all,has anyone else recieved an e-mail from Michigan State U asking to conduct a survey on trapping?It is being conducted by Jessica Rizzolo at MSU Dept. of Fisheries and Wiildlife div.Has questions concerning" illegal fur harvesting do to discussions with trappers." Have not taken survey yet for fears of possible anti trapping agendas?Anyone else have insite?

Re: michigan trappers survey? [Re: swampbeast] #6968473
08/19/20 11:57 AM
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I just Googled this researcher.......based on what I read, in my opinion, she doesn't seem to be anyone I'd trust to be all in for the wise use of our furbearer resource.


Re: michigan trappers survey? [Re: J.Morse] #6968483
08/19/20 12:11 PM
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Thanks J I had my reservations as well so I think I'll skip my reply.If it were a Mi.DNR furbearer survey I probably would such as we get them at the end of seasons,However we Michiganders all know our DNR services are not currently available,can't even register last springs otter catches yet.

Re: michigan trappers survey? [Re: swampbeast] #6968500
08/19/20 12:26 PM
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I dont dare comment much on this but I would suggest NOT participating

Re: michigan trappers survey? [Re: swampbeast] #6968503
08/19/20 12:33 PM
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No email here.... yet


When life gets me down..... you know hunting/trapping season is closed.
Re: michigan trappers survey? [Re: swampbeast] #6968559
08/19/20 02:26 PM
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I received an email and did their survey just to see what it was about. It was about how likely you felt fellow trappers follow the laws while trapping the limited species( bobcat, otter, marten, and fisher). How likely it was for a trapper to hide a harvest of a poor quality animal in order to get a better one to tag. Also how much you trust the DNR regulations and how well you think they are managing the resources.


Re: michigan trappers survey? [Re: swampbeast] #6968571
08/19/20 02:59 PM
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No email here

Re: michigan trappers survey? [Re: swampbeast] #6968574
08/19/20 03:02 PM
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I got one. Prob won’t respond after the posts here.

Re: michigan trappers survey? [Re: swampbeast] #6968710
08/19/20 06:48 PM
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After searching her:

Department of Fisheries and Wildlife
Research Associate – Gore Lab
Jessica is a conservation social scientist who holds a dual PhD in Sociology and Environmental Science and Policy from Michigan State University. Her research interests include wildlife crime, wildlife tourism, wildlife consumption, and the integration of animal welfare and conservation. She is particularly focused on China and Southeast Asia, the issues affecting captive and wild elephants and big cats, and the integration of critical criminology and situational crime prevention. Her current research spans fur-bearer poaching in Michigan, wildlife guardianship in Vietnam, the conservation impacts of novel forms of wildlife tourism such as selfie safaris, and the effects of wildlife farms on the acceptability of consumption of tigers, bears, turtles, and snakes in China.


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Re: michigan trappers survey? [Re: swampbeast] #6968713
08/19/20 06:59 PM
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I answered what I wanted to and emailed her a number of questions. Expressed my distaste for the obvious bias against trapping. Forwarded the survey to my contact at the DNR who regularly deals with anti trapping wonks. I doubt she'll respond. She is looking to validate her Ill will towards what we do. Only thing missing was the " have you stopped killing kittens? Question. Going to blow back on the dnr for furnishing our email addresses and let them know that because of this I will reference this as to why I'm no longer filling out any more surveys.

Re: michigan trappers survey? [Re: swampbeast] #6968721
08/19/20 07:05 PM
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we had them at a show couple years ago , they didn't tell me the truth about what they where going to ask , I believe they are against trapping , the question they ask try to put one trapper against another , jmo

Re: michigan trappers survey? [Re: swampbeast] #6968742
08/19/20 07:38 PM
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Some chatter about this on MTPCA Facebook page, someone contacted MDNR furbearer manager Adam Bump. It seems the survey is legit. But in no way does it make one feel warm and fuzzy with the questions I seen. I see no biological resource benefit to those type of questions, I won't participate. Sooner or later it will come back to bite us trappers.

Last edited by Feedinggrounds; 08/19/20 07:39 PM. Reason: spelling/wording

you're only allowed so many sunrises... I aim to see every one of them!
Re: michigan trappers survey? [Re: Feedinggrounds] #6968796
08/19/20 08:57 PM
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That would be an extremely subjective type survey on all ends from my perspective. Who responds and with what and how it is tabulated and released. Not much to really gain from any scientific aspect at all and even the social aspect has no real accountability aspect to it either. Hard to believe anything of any real value to improve trapping, trappers or the experience could possibly come from this. I don't know the nature of the other questions that may not be related to the topic discussed here. If a more complete survey with other types of questions one can leave the more subjective ones blank.

Bryce

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