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Re: Thoughts on drilling in Alaska. [Re: MJM] #6969596
08/20/20 09:46 PM
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I see. When I made my statement I wasn’t educated on what green energy is best o was just saying solid and wind as an example but after seeing what you guys have said, I’d say nuclear as well

Re: Thoughts on drilling in Alaska. [Re: Gone Trappin.] #6969599
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Re: Thoughts on drilling in Alaska. [Re: Gone Trappin.] #6969602
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Most everything in this country moves by truck. Without diesel stores would be pretty empty. I don't believe I'll ever see it different.

Re: Thoughts on drilling in Alaska. [Re: Gone Trappin.] #6969603
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The best Green energy by far is Hydro. This morning the conversation in the truck on the way to work was about why we cannot install small hydro plants on all of the existing dams around here, we were not smart enough to come up with a good answer.

Re: Thoughts on drilling in Alaska. [Re: Gone Trappin.] #6969608
08/20/20 09:54 PM
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Have to agree with that. Hydro is clean and long-lived.
The problem is the greens would never allow new dams. I think they'd go for nukes before they would dams


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Re: Thoughts on drilling in Alaska. [Re: white17] #6969611
08/20/20 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by white17
Have to agree with that. Hydro is clean and long-lived.
The problem is the greens would never allow new dams. I think they'd go for nukes before they would dams


This is why I have been wondering about the possibility of small hydro plants on existing dams, I have atleast 3 dams within 8 miles of my house, all small but you would think it could be worth it if its worth putting small solar fields all over the place.

I feel like a Hydro dam is a long term investment, something that is expensive but worthwhile well into the future, we are not a forward thinking country any longer so I suppose it makes more sense to just put up Chinese Solar panels.

Re: Thoughts on drilling in Alaska. [Re: Gone Trappin.] #6969635
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Re: Thoughts on drilling in Alaska. [Re: Finster] #6969662
08/20/20 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Finster
Nuclear is the greenest energy there is and people are afraid of it. That being said, drill away. If it's done correctly it won't have much of an impact.


Agree. Drill baby drill!!


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Re: Thoughts on drilling in Alaska. [Re: Gone Trappin.] #6969699
08/21/20 12:02 AM
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I agree with Ryan McLeod, I hope the 1002 area stays off limits. I've spent a fair amount of time there, mostly in March, April, and September. Fed my family close to 30 Porcupine herd caribou. Amazing waterfowl area too. I don't think ANWR oil will have much economic impact on Alaska. A few token jobs to locals, but most oil field workers live out of state now. It would generate royalty $ to federal coffers, not state. I wholeheartedly agree that Pebble is a huge threat to Bristol Bay, a bigger threat to the Alaskan lifestyle and resources than drilling in ANWR.

Re: Thoughts on drilling in Alaska. [Re: Gone Trappin.] #6969722
08/21/20 01:32 AM
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As someone who has worked in the oil patch for a decade, it absolutely can be done with very little impact on the environment. That said, we have an oversupply of oil right now, which is why myself and most of my coworkers are laid off right now. There’s no need to drill now, UNLESS the company stands to lose the lease if they don’t make it produce, which is a thing. So drilling may not be so much political as it is necessary for the company who owns the rights, they may be up against a deadline to produce or they could lose the rights to a competitor.


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Re: Thoughts on drilling in Alaska. [Re: tlguy] #6969726
08/21/20 01:50 AM
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Originally Posted by tlguy
Isn't it the drilling that keeps the coffer full for paying Alaskans just to be Alaskans? Gotta keep that going!


With all due respect, guy........drilling and oil production have NOTHING to do with paying Alaskans. We don't get paid to be Alaskans. Google up Alaska permanent fund dividend if your interesting in knowing the facts!!

Re: Thoughts on drilling in Alaska. [Re: Gone Trappin.] #6969730
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The greenist energy that actually works economically is nuclear and hydro. But the Greenies don't want to talk about those two.


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Re: Thoughts on drilling in Alaska. [Re: Gone Trappin.] #6969763
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Drill baby drill. I think environmental impact is pretty much minimal nowadays unless your nit-picking for a reason for a reason to derail it

Re: Thoughts on drilling in Alaska. [Re: waggler] #6969778
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Originally Posted by waggler
The greenist energy that actually works economically is nuclear and hydro. But the Greenies don't want to talk about those two.


waggler you and others that have made this point are correct, and it makes 100% confident that man made climate change is BS. If they truly believed it they couldn’t be against either form of energy.


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Re: Thoughts on drilling in Alaska. [Re: Gone Trappin.] #6969788
08/21/20 07:26 AM
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Small hydro has come and gone. There has been a decades long movement across the country to tear out all the small dams. Everything we do has an impact on the environment including hydro. That just means as a society we have to make choices but there is always some vocal group to oppose every option. I worked my entire professional career in the nuclear industry and I am a strong proponent of safe nuclear energy but our domestic nuclear energy industry is dying. We have Harry Reid to thank for much of that.

Re: Thoughts on drilling in Alaska. [Re: Gone Trappin.] #6969814
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Wind turbines and solar power are just warm fuzzies. Without subsidy money they would not be built. Like said before they are supplement power. I live close to a hydro power plant on the Mississippi river that has been in for years. It is only used for peak demand. Yes very cheap produced power but no way near enough production to supply demand. Rural electric coops were mandated to buy 20% renewable energy. So they bought some wind power for 4.5 cent/kwh. They couldn't use it as they had all they needed from a coal fired plant under contract. So they sold it back on the grid for 4 cent/kwh. Nice ain't it?

Re: Thoughts on drilling in Alaska. [Re: Gone Trappin.] #6969816
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Where does the Pebble Mine project stand at now? I hate to watch the gold digger shows.. They destroy a lot of land.


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Re: Thoughts on drilling in Alaska. [Re: Gone Trappin.] #6969889
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Why do we need to drill for more oil? We are a net exporter of oil right now.

I cannot believe anyone that has oil being pumped from their ground being in favor of more drilling with gas and oil prices where they are now.

The only upside might be to have even cheaper oil and gas for consumers.

Maybe Trump knows this will will never come about but it makes for great PR just before an election.

Re: Thoughts on drilling in Alaska. [Re: beeman] #6969894
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Originally Posted by beeman
Why do we need to drill for more oil? We are a net exporter of oil right now.

I cannot believe anyone that has oil being pumped from their ground being in favor of more drilling with gas and oil prices where they are now.

The only upside might be to have even cheaper oil and gas for consumers.

Maybe Trump knows this will will never come about but it makes for great PR just before an election.


I don't know all the ends and outs but exploration for the next deposit is always needed. If for no other reason than to smooth the transition as deposits play out. Waiting until is never a good plan.


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Re: Thoughts on drilling in Alaska. [Re: Gone Trappin.] #6969897
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Another thought, everyone knowing you have an ace in the hole is always good at the negotiating table.


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