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Re: Wife harassed at walmart [Re: HobbieTrapper] #6977502
08/29/20 01:24 PM
08/29/20 01:24 PM
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Posts: 21,653
North East Kansas
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Originally Posted by HobbieTrapper
Originally Posted by Marty
But if that does not happen its really no big deal, right? It will all be just peachy.....


Correct, won’t change how I do things much.


laugh


Rise and Rise Again
Until Lambs Become Lions
Re: Wife harassed at walmart [Re: Jiggamitch] #6977509
08/29/20 01:28 PM
08/29/20 01:28 PM
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Posts: 31,410
williamsburg ks
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White people, who show up to in person to vote, who will be mostly Conservative, will be intimidated or even prohibited from voting in many districts by blm, antifa and other young democrats.


I hope that doesn't happen to me or I will be on the news portrayed as another deranged lunatic

Last edited by danny clifton; 08/29/20 01:28 PM.

Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Wife harassed at walmart [Re: Sharon] #6977518
08/29/20 01:42 PM
08/29/20 01:42 PM
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 5,971
New York border
Cragar Offline
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Posts: 5,971
New York border
Originally Posted by Sharon
I feel so bad for those who go through such trauma , that is what it truly is for them.

I have believed for decades, that all citizens should take self-defense class, even a little , to get into the mindset of planning ahead what they would do, being aware of their surroundings , having a plan. Instead of freezing in fright. So many grow up with no exposure to self-preservation , or what they would do if unfortunate circumstance presented itself. Especially women. At any age, is not too late to learn a few effective moves.

Being aware in parking lots is vital. Looking way ahead driving in . There are those areas of the country, where predators are known to troll for victims , being approached by natives in sets of two or more, in rez country, or others in cities , whatever is prevalent to the cultural population. Intimidating in groups for money.

Locking sight onto those who have targeted you at a distance, puts them off before they get to you, they look for those exhibiting timid body language , eyes down, or distracted. Some people have great success using their "big voice" warning them to back off before they get even 20 feet away.

Seeing what is happening around you at distance really helps to plan ahead, either to walk back from where you came, or change direction . When leaving the store, always scan underneath parked cars for feet on the other side, but not seen above the hoods.

The choice to stop, and go back from where you came is always an option, if proceeding ahead feels dangerous. Never second guess your instinct.

I like to park in places where I won't be blocked from a car parked in the opposite side. I can drive over the cement block, and into the green space between parking lanes if I need to. My truck is high enough, and 4x4, is no problem. Thinking outside the box in driving is key , when needed. I also like to back in , instead of pulling straight in .

In the case of being blocked from leaving, I would enter my truck, roll down the window, start up, pistol in hand, lowered . Glaring , locked onto them. Depending on what they would do, if they amped up confrontation , or got out to approach, two choices , for me, either roll into their car, and move it, or if they get to the window, take clear aim. Sitting there blocked in is not an option for me, waiting for bullies to tire of threats and name-calling , amping up to physical contact.

For people who have not mentally planned survival modes, those decisions would be difficult to execute, much less think of. That's why so many videos show drivers just sitting in the road while thugs break windows and pull them out of their rig. They are programmed to not hurt anyone, run them over, or take any action to defend themselves.

The grizzly mindset , the whirlwind of protecting her cubs, has been absent from modern humans for a long time.

I would rather explain the real scenarios that everyone sees in videos to a judge, than be yet another victim . Every time I see videos like that, it never ends well for the ones bullied. In your face screaming eventually leads to contact. Rarely does it limit to non touch screaming only. Even that is enough of a threat to make the choice in defense. I don't know of one veteran who would stand for a megaphone blaring inches from his ears , in BATTERY of noise torture, who wouldn't take that nonsense down in short order.

Train those in the family . Just being aware way ahead can help a lot.

Controlled anger motivates. Fear paralyzes.

It is all mindset.


Sharon , that sounds almost like something Massad Ayoob would write , an expert on self defense.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massad_Ayoob

Great post , I agree 100%


NRA benefactor member
Re: Wife harassed at walmart [Re: Jiggamitch] #6977524
08/29/20 01:47 PM
08/29/20 01:47 PM
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There are still good people in the world of all colors. And evil people of all colors.
I agree with not shopping at Walmart if possible, we have been supporting the smaller stores more and more lately.
I'd rather spend my money where people are more friendly and I know what it's like to run a small business.


Right now I’m having amnesia and déjà vu at the same time. I think I’ve forgotten this before.
Re: Wife harassed at walmart [Re: bowhunter27295] #6977542
08/29/20 02:04 PM
08/29/20 02:04 PM
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 6,707
2A Sanctuaries-W. OK & N. NM
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Originally Posted by bowhunter27295
I am glad your wife is ok Jigg.

I am noticing more black people being nicer and more polite and cordial. I think there is a fear beginning to spread in the black community. Afraid of being labeled a blm member when all they want is to live safely and have live in a decent area. Much like any other human being regardless of skin color.

Sad what is going on now, but because of this, Trump and conservatives are going to win in a landslide and the left is not gonna see it coming. The house will go back to R and the senate will go stronger R. There is a sub surface tsunami that is gonna rock the left's world.

The left now owns rioting, looting, destruction of private property, blm, antifa, etc. It is too late for them to shake this albatross. Not to mention their candidates. What a choice??

8/29/20. Mark my words.


I hope you're right. I'm seeing more attitude. And I'm also seeing more of them at the gun counters.

Re: Wife harassed at walmart [Re: danny clifton] #6977558
08/29/20 02:31 PM
08/29/20 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by danny clifton
Quote
White people, who show up to in person to vote, who will be mostly Conservative, will be intimidated or even prohibited from voting in many districts by blm, antifa and other young democrats.


I hope that doesn't happen to me or I will be on the news portrayed as another deranged lunatic

X2!

Re: Wife harassed at walmart [Re: danny clifton] #6977573
08/29/20 02:47 PM
08/29/20 02:47 PM
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AK
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AK
Originally Posted by danny clifton
Why does trump need re-elected to get some control in these cities? Why isn't it being done now? Also are the rioters breaking federal law and thereby giving the feds (Trump) jurisdiction?


Trump understands that elections have consequences. I believe that his re-election is critical for our future and am willing to wait a few more months it's hammer down.


formerly posting as white dog
Re: Wife harassed at walmart [Re: HobbieTrapper] #6977599
08/29/20 03:27 PM
08/29/20 03:27 PM
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Very SE Nebraska
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Originally Posted by HobbieTrapper
Originally Posted by Marty
But if that does not happen its really no big deal, right? It will all be just peachy.....


Correct, won’t change how I do things much.

In other words, Hobbie is just fine with what's going on in the cities right now.


Life ain't supposed to be easy.
Re: Wife harassed at walmart [Re: Jiggamitch] #6977621
08/29/20 04:21 PM
08/29/20 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Jiggamitch
Wife was unloading groceries when a car with 2 white women and 2 black men pulled up to her and started calling her a white privileged - . They inched up to her car and started honking and yelling at her. Another customer, who was black, heard what was going on and got between my wife's car and the other. A second black man had seen what was going on and got his truck and forced the other car to back up. They kept the other car blocked until my wife was able to leave the parking lot. She was terrified.


I’m really sorry. Disheartening. But speaks volumes to the caliber of character (or complete lack of) that accompanies this BLM movement. And then I am a racist for judging this trash for what it is. Trash to be discarded.

How long will it take before a disgusted conceal carry just decides to challenge them. I don’t know.

Re: Wife harassed at walmart [Re: Jiggamitch] #6977984
08/29/20 10:17 PM
08/29/20 10:17 PM
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Champaign County, Ohio.
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The young democrats of blm and antifa don't even have any fear of attacking police officers now.





Especially people who look like most of us and even like minded people, who don't, are targets now of young democrats.

Keith

Re: Wife harassed at walmart [Re: Gary Benson] #6978345
08/30/20 11:41 AM
08/30/20 11:41 AM
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 30,729
Eastern Shore of Maryland
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Eastern Shore of Maryland
Originally Posted by Gary Benson
Originally Posted by HobbieTrapper


Correct, won’t change how I do things much.

In other words, Hobbie is just fine with what's going on in the cities right now.


[Linked Image]

Some important stuff being learned right now. By the time it catches up to what I know it will have taken care of itself like a tissue on fire.


-Goofy
Re: Wife harassed at walmart [Re: Jiggamitch] #6978416
08/30/20 01:31 PM
08/30/20 01:31 PM
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SW Georgia
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That’s why my wife carries and knows how to use it...and has.

Re: Wife harassed at walmart [Re: Jiggamitch] #6978451
08/30/20 02:30 PM
08/30/20 02:30 PM
Joined: Dec 2015
Posts: 6,825
se South Dakota
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Yep, in the end its a spiritual fight that's been well documented for a long time as Mark June pointed out. I see it in my own extended family. The other side doesn't want to admit its a spiritual struggle but that doesn't make it any less so. I'm glad some courageous men stepped in to help the ladies. Sometimes It only takes a few. Judges, Chapter 7.


"And God said, Let us make man in our image �and let them have dominion �and all the creatures that move along the ground".
Genesis 1:26
Re: Wife harassed at walmart [Re: Sharon] #6978696
08/30/20 08:14 PM
08/30/20 08:14 PM
Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 6,135
Northern Wisconsin,Rhinelander
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Muskrat Master
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Northern Wisconsin,Rhinelander
Originally Posted by Sharon
I feel so bad for those who go through such trauma , that is what it truly is for them.

I have believed for decades, that all citizens should take self-defense class, even a little , to get into the mindset of planning ahead what they would do, being aware of their surroundings , having a plan. Instead of freezing in fright. So many grow up with no exposure to self-preservation , or what they would do if unfortunate circumstance presented itself. Especially women. At any age, is not too late to learn a few effective moves.

Being aware in parking lots is vital. Looking way ahead driving in . There are those areas of the country, where predators are known to troll for victims , being approached by natives in sets of two or more, in rez country, or others in cities , whatever is prevalent to the cultural population. Intimidating in groups for money.

Locking sight onto those who have targeted you at a distance, puts them off before they get to you, they look for those exhibiting timid body language , eyes down, or distracted. Some people have great success using their "big voice" warning them to back off before they get even 20 feet away.

Seeing what is happening around you at distance really helps to plan ahead, either to walk back from where you came, or change direction . When leaving the store, always scan underneath parked cars for feet on the other side, but not seen above the hoods.

The choice to stop, and go back from where you came is always an option, if proceeding ahead feels dangerous. Never second guess your instinct.

I like to park in places where I won't be blocked from a car parked in the opposite side. I can drive over the cement block, and into the green space between parking lanes if I need to. My truck is high enough, and 4x4, is no problem. Thinking outside the box in driving is key , when needed. I also like to back in , instead of pulling straight in .

In the case of being blocked from leaving, I would enter my truck, roll down the window, start up, pistol in hand, lowered . Glaring , locked onto them. Depending on what they would do, if they amped up confrontation , or got out to approach, two choices , for me, either roll into their car, and move it, or if they get to the window, take clear aim. Sitting there blocked in is not an option for me, waiting for bullies to tire of threats and name-calling , amping up to physical contact.

For people who have not mentally planned survival modes, those decisions would be difficult to execute, much less think of. That's why so many videos show drivers just sitting in the road while thugs break windows and pull them out of their rig. They are programmed to not hurt anyone, run them over, or take any action to defend themselves.

The grizzly mindset , the whirlwind of protecting her cubs, has been absent from modern humans for a long time.

I would rather explain the real scenarios that everyone sees in videos to a judge, than be yet another victim . Every time I see videos like that, it never ends well for the ones bullied. In your face screaming eventually leads to contact. Rarely does it limit to non touch screaming only. Even that is enough of a threat to make the choice in defense. I don't know of one veteran who would stand for a megaphone blaring inches from his ears , in BATTERY of noise torture, who wouldn't take that nonsense down in short order.

Train those in the family . Just being aware way ahead can help a lot.

Controlled anger motivates. Fear paralyzes.

It is all mindset.




Very well said Sharon!

Chris


>>In God we trust<<
Re: Wife harassed at walmart [Re: Jiggamitch] #6978776
08/30/20 10:53 PM
08/30/20 10:53 PM
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Ohio
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Mark - Absolutely on the bullseye!

We are facing a social political and economic revolution that is very well planned, manned, and funded from within and without. Look at it from the top down and follow the money. There is a very strong element of control from a foreign government. It is amazing that what bad things they do, they try to shift the blame onto our strong leaders.


FRAC LIVES MATTER
Re: Wife harassed at walmart [Re: Jiggamitch] #6978785
08/30/20 11:16 PM
08/30/20 11:16 PM
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You bring up a very good point Willy. I have not read or witnessed any follow up or investigation as to where step by step the funding has come from,( outside of Soros).
More are culpable and need exposure.

Re: Wife harassed at walmart [Re: mnsota] #6978792
08/31/20 12:04 AM
08/31/20 12:04 AM
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Champaign County, Ohio.
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Originally Posted by mnsota
You bring up a very good point Willy. I have not read or witnessed any follow up or investigation as to where step by step the funding has come from,( outside of Soros).
More are culpable and need exposure.


Search "blm and bloomberg". His organization is spending enormous resources promoting blm. Thousands of man hours, from his media empire, are being paid for by bloomberg to make blm look good.

Keith

Re: Wife harassed at walmart [Re: Jiggamitch] #6978825
08/31/20 05:09 AM
08/31/20 05:09 AM
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Read up on the Bilderburg meetings and the members and you'll find the people behind the one world gov't that Trump set back a few years.

Re: Wife harassed at walmart [Re: Jiggamitch] #6978846
08/31/20 06:08 AM
08/31/20 06:08 AM
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williamsburg ks
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Somebody or more likely somebodies, are sure enough trying to destroy us. Been going on awhile. Lots of theories and accusations out there. I think there are still people who believe they are royalty. Better than everyone else. They wish to return to a world of serfs and lords. Everything owned by a handful of lords who tell the serfs everything is owned in common. We usually call that system communism.

No individual rights of any kind.

they are coming so get ready


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Wife harassed at walmart [Re: hippie] #6978866
08/31/20 06:42 AM
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Missouri
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Missouri
Originally Posted by hippie
Read up on the Bilderburg meetings and the members and you'll find the people behind the one world gov't that Trump set back a few years.

I truly believe you are spot on. This group is pulling the strings to make the world dance. The ultra rich want the world to revolve around them. One world order is there ultimate goal.

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