Re: Fisher sets
[Re: greenetrapper]
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09/07/20 09:15 AM
09/07/20 09:15 AM
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proratman
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My only complaint about NY fisher is the season starts too early and ends before the fur is prime. In Pa, they get a much better furred fisher in December than these early fisher.
Last edited by proratman; 09/07/20 09:18 AM.
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Re: Fisher sets
[Re: Mac]
#6984683
09/07/20 09:30 AM
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What do you guys use for trapping Fisher. I have caught some accidentally in my coyote sets but this year I will be allowed to Target them. Any tips and how to trap them would be great If you have a multi day check allowed, boxes as shown in the other post are pretty tough to beat. Back in the day we were not allowed to set any body grip with bait over the size of a 5x5. I did well with 120s and then 5x5s after they came along. A 220 in settled country would be a horrible idea. In wilderness areas I suspect it would be great. Today the Inland Fisheries and Game have put the literal screws to fisher and marten trappers in Maine with the forced use of the exclusion box. If you have a 24 hour check, I believe you are way ahead to make what us old timers call ground sets with foot holds. A 220 in " settled " country with a 4" overhang top and slots cut back so the trap is nearly centered is dogproof and has caught me all furbearers Only in 25+ years.
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Re: Fisher sets
[Re: greenetrapper]
#6984695
09/07/20 09:51 AM
09/07/20 09:51 AM
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Posts: 23,715 New Hampshire
Nessmuck
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Always use pure quill mixed with petroleum jelly.....Beaver hind 1/4 for bait...I even put a dab of beaver lure on the bait. I use a 160 in my homemade wire cage.. wired to a 4 inch leaning pole....5 feet off the ground. We here in NH get the whole month of December to trap fishah. But they keep messing with the limits. 20 years ago it was 15.... then went to 10..... then went to 5.....and now it’s just 2.... and I don’t even bother now....I’ve caught my fair share. But it is fun checking those sets.
It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.
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Re: Fisher sets
[Re: proratman]
#6984719
09/07/20 10:31 AM
09/07/20 10:31 AM
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My only complaint about NY fisher is the season starts too early and ends before the fur is prime. In Pa, they get a much better furred fisher in December than these early fisher. i live on the state line and trap both states.no ny fisher for me cause of why you said.cats look good over there though.havin a few PA fishers helps.i'm lookin for a silky female to go with this toad headed 20 lb male i took last year.
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Re: Fisher sets
[Re: greenetrapper]
#6984720
09/07/20 10:33 AM
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i skinned and tanned him open and will "hoop" him in an antique window frame i'm redoing.have one ready for a female when i get her.population here is up where takin one"female" won't hurt.
Sawmill creek would be the guy i'd contact if he don't chime in when he gets back from Herkimer.he's got catchin em over there down to a science but don't tell him i told ya.
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Re: Fisher sets
[Re: greenetrapper]
#6984754
09/07/20 11:41 AM
09/07/20 11:41 AM
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that big male checked out 2 porky den trees 40 yds from my favorite archery stand more times than i can count.caught in a 11 with nothing but a handful of fresh venison scraps the first night.
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Re: Fisher sets
[Re: greenetrapper]
#6984789
09/07/20 12:26 PM
09/07/20 12:26 PM
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Leftlane
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He wasa a big boy. Scott- your rig and boxes look to be well thought out and obviously doing what they were supposed to do only! Thats great.
“What’s good for me may not be good for the weak minded.” Captain Gus McCrae- Texas Rangers
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Re: Fisher sets
[Re: greenetrapper]
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09/07/20 12:41 PM
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Posts: 45,565 james bay frontierOnt.
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Using cage style boxes(1'" squares) here be prepared to re bait every couple days-even with the biggest chunk of bait it will be eaten away to nothing in a day or two by rodents and birds working it from the outside even when camoed with evergreens .Anyone who trys them here quickly go back to boxes,since on our extended checks they are inefficient.I dont like the 1" square wire at the end of the wooden box for the same reason-1/4" or 1/2" is much better for bait retention.I dont like wooden ends with holes drilled either,they are less productive for me ,I think because airflow and visual is not there from either end as much as a screened end. I guess 1" screen boxes would be OK on daily checks and if you dont run too many boxes.
Last edited by Boco; 09/07/20 12:46 PM.
Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
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Re: Fisher sets
[Re: greenetrapper]
#6984836
09/07/20 01:10 PM
09/07/20 01:10 PM
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Leftlane
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That makes a lot of sense Boco- if I ever get to trap up north I will try to remember your well thought out post.
“What’s good for me may not be good for the weak minded.” Captain Gus McCrae- Texas Rangers
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Re: Fisher sets
[Re: greenetrapper]
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09/07/20 01:12 PM
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bctomcat
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A fisher is an opportunistic predator/scavenger that will eat virtually anything; berries, birds and eggs, fish and of coarse MEAT. I prefer beaver for bait as it gives off a good odour when even frozen but moose, deer and fish are also good baits. Many lures will attract them, beaver castor, fish oil and marten lures. One with skunk in it is great for very cold weather conditions. Fisher can be caught in many set types but I prefer a box set on a leaning tree or running pole. When using a horizontal or inclined trap box be it with standard wire or pan trigger, if it is set too far away from the bait the animal sometimes moves through the wire trigger or jumps over the pan and fires the trap with its body or hind feet, resulting in a hip catch. With a 120-trap set within 4-6 inches of the bait, you will get a neck or neck and thorax quick kill zone strike virtually every time. This occurs because the animal is stable at the bait, not moving through, and centered towards the trap when it is triggered. While working the bait in a 14” plus long box with long spring slots the animal will be correctly oriented to the trap, stable, not moving through the trap and most likely mink and marten will be standing with front feet on a pan trigger or moving its head within the trigger wires while working the bait. The fisher will usually trigger either a pan or wire trigger 120 trap with its head movements while working the bait.
The only constant in trapping is change so keep learning.
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Re: Fisher sets
[Re: Leftlane]
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09/07/20 01:30 PM
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Posts: 45,565 james bay frontierOnt.
Boco
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That makes a lot of sense Boco- if I ever get to trap up north I will try to remember your well thought out post. Leftlane,a bunch of us trappers from NE Ontario participated in the field testing of traps and applications by MNR biologists,on working traplines, when we were developing the best methods to take Marten and Fisher with bodygrips. Part of the testing included evaluating all the different boxes and the way they were set up to identify the best most productive methods. This was the final paper compiled from that part of the field testing.
Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
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