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do grouse drum in the autumn? #6996091
09/21/20 11:21 AM
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We don't have many grouse in Indiana anymore. I used to hunt them years ago but never had much luck. We've since lost our season for them.

Anyway, I was hiking in far northern Michigan last week and heard a drumming sound that I supposed to be a grouse. However, I thought grouse only drummed in the spring. Do they sometimes do it in the autumn also?


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Re: do grouse drum in the autumn? [Re: Kart29] #6996098
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I'm guessing that it has to do with photoperiod being similar in the fall as it is in the spring, and it messes with ruffed grouse psyche. I assume they are not in breeding mode, but the daylength has them a bit confused. Yes, they certainly do some drumming in the fall, at least here in Idaho and in Alaska.

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Re: do grouse drum in the autumn? [Re: Kart29] #6996107
09/21/20 11:41 AM
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Yes, I think it is just wishful thinking on their part though.


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Re: do grouse drum in the autumn? [Re: Kart29] #6996108
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Yup hear them often this time of year.


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Re: do grouse drum in the autumn? [Re: Kart29] #6996154
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The male grouse actually establish their spring breeding leks in the fall, so what your hearing are males letting the other fellas know that lek is spoken for. It is quite common to hear in my area of the Northern Lower Peninsula.


Re: do grouse drum in the autumn? [Re: Kart29] #6996164
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Yes they do ,at least here in upper Michigan


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Re: do grouse drum in the autumn? [Re: Kart29] #6996168
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If not actively drumming in the fall male ruff's will be on or near their territorial drumming sites(they often have more than one) until snow fall and not return until gone as they become to overexposed to predators. Just play a recording of a drumming grouse in their territory and they will respond as quickly as they can get to a drum log or investigate in person.


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Re: do grouse drum in the autumn? [Re: Kart29] #6996231
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That must be what I'd heard then. We used to have some in Indiana but I never heard them drumming in the autumn. And, I was in the woods where I hunted them in autumn a great deal back when we had them hear.

I was hiking last week around Grass River to the east of Torch Lake. That's where I heard them. I'd never heard grouse drumming before.

I sure do love those northern forests.


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Re: do grouse drum in the autumn? [Re: Kart29] #6996253
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Re: do grouse drum in the autumn? [Re: Kart29] #6996308
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A memorable hunt from my springers first season a few years back. Heard the bird drumming when we got out of the truck. Hard to tell exactly where the bird was drumming from, but we walked him up, flushed him off his drumming log with no shot, I connected on the second flush.

I hear a few every fall but this is the only time Ive hunted a drumming bird. Heard photoperiod as the cause as well, also birds establishing territory as the family groups disperse.
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Re: do grouse drum in the autumn? [Re: Kart29] #6996587
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Ive heard many grouse drumming in fall in north-central PA.

Ive seen males strutting around all puffed up in fall too.


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Re: do grouse drum in the autumn? [Re: Kart29] #6996592
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Ive seen and heard turkeys displaying and gobbling in fall too.


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Re: do grouse drum in the autumn? [Re: J.Morse] #6996597
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Originally Posted by J.Morse
The male grouse actually establish their spring breeding leks in the fall, so what your hearing are males letting the other fellas know that lek is spoken for. It is quite common to hear in my area of the Northern Lower Peninsula.


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Re: do grouse drum in the autumn? [Re: Kart29] #6996781
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Ive heard them drum in the fall, sometimes so much so that its annoying. That was then and this is now though, not much to offer in PA for the grouse hunter. Sad, its our State Bird.



Re: do grouse drum in the autumn? [Re: Kart29] #6996905
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For the last twenty years Ive hunted a 3,500 acre timber company holding. It has been actively logged during that entire time and longer. As a result hundreds of acres of ideal grouse habitat exist. Ten years ago twenty-flush days were common, thirty-flush days were less common but happened. Any more we are lucky to flush six or seven a day. The decline is more than grouses normal population cycle. The best working theory Ive heard from the experts is that it is due to West Nile virus.


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Re: do grouse drum in the autumn? [Re: Kart29] #6996983
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If you leave your 4 wheeler , sit idling . Quite often a grouse will show up. Sounds like drumming, I guess. old243

Re: do grouse drum in the autumn? [Re: Kart29] #6997643
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Re: do grouse drum in the autumn? [Re: Kart29] #6997692
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Re: do grouse drum in the autumn? [Re: Kart29] #6997701
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hear them every morning at my house, also hear turkeys gobble ,

Re: do grouse drum in the autumn? [Re: Lugnut] #6997711
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Originally Posted by Lugnut
For the last twenty years Ive hunted a 3,500 acre timber company holding. It has been actively logged during that entire time and longer. As a result hundreds of acres of ideal grouse habitat exist. Ten years ago twenty-flush days were common, thirty-flush days were less common but happened. Any more we are lucky to flush six or seven a day. The decline is more than grouses normal population cycle. The best working theory Ive heard from the experts is that it is due to West Nile virus.

saw 11 in my riverbottom yesterday mornin,2 family groups i think.









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