Re: My body my choice!!!! / The war on drugs
[Re: bowhunter27295]
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10/11/20 02:39 PM
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I just want to have a pot plant or two growing next to my pepper plants Makes you a criminal in most states. I think you should have the right. Just like brewing beer wine etc.. Use it and don't sell it. If I get high on pot and run over your child on their bicycle and kill them, am I responsible for my actions or will I be let off the hook because I was exercising my right to do what I want with my body? No different than alcohol or prescription drugs from your Doc or working long hours and driving home half asleep. Doing everything has consequences. You could be swatting a bee and run over the kid on the bike the same way. I don't condone driving under the influence but I think everyone can do what they want with their body. Whether it's the guy smoking a joint or the guy ramming the double Whopper down his throat
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Re: My body my choice!!!! / The war on drugs
[Re: Donnersurvivor]
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Dealers should be executed. The amount of harm drugs do in society is enormous, drugs and addicts should be purged from society.
...I am not a libertarian if you can't tell. Man, I hope you don't drink! I don't see how spending billions of dollars in tax payer money to investigate, prosecute, and house folks that are likely going to get out and do it again is helping anything. They will weed themselves out. No pun intended and I have a hard time even considering that one a drug. The government could be regulating it and taxing it, but somehow the government takes a moral high ground. I'm for individual rights. Funny how socialists and extreme right wingers both need the government to hold their hands. Like Montgomery gentry wrote, " you do your thing, I'll do mine."
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Re: My body my choice!!!! / The war on drugs
[Re: Providence Farm]
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danny clifton
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lets make murder illegal so politicians will quit trying to disarm us
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: My body my choice!!!! / The war on drugs
[Re: fishnhunts]
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10/11/20 02:50 PM
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Dealers should be executed. The amount of harm drugs do in society is enormous, drugs and addicts should be purged from society.
...I am not a libertarian if you can't tell. Man, I hope you don't drink! I don't see how spending billions of dollars in tax payer money to investigate, prosecute, and house folks that are likely going to get out and do it again is helping anything. They will weed themselves out. No pun intended and I have a hard time even considering that one a drug. The government could be regulating it and taxing it, but somehow the government takes a moral high ground. I'm for individual rights. Funny how socialists and extreme right wingers both need the government to hold their hands. Like Montgomery gentry wrote, " you do your thing, I'll do mine." Comparing drugs to alcohol is an unfair comparison. How many casual drinkers do you know? How many casual heroin users or meth heads are just casually using and not harming anyone or society? Government is already spending billions on addicts and treatment etc. I'm not asking for government to do anything, stay out of my way and I'll take care of the dealers in my own neighborhood.
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Re: My body my choice!!!! / The war on drugs
[Re: bowhunter27295]
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10/11/20 02:57 PM
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What happens to me when I kill a person after finding out they killed my child driving stoned?
If I'm on the jury you walk free and continue trying to live your life
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Re: My body my choice!!!! / The war on drugs
[Re: Providence Farm]
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10/11/20 03:26 PM
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I just learned that there are 7 states that have State-owned liquor stores. I did not know that. Alabama, Idaho, New Hampshire, North Caroline, Pennsylvania, Utah, Virginia. State and local govts collect aboat 7.3 billion in taxes and an additional 9.3 billion from state-owned liquor stores. As it is, alcohol is dug in deep and will never be illegalized now regardless of the consequences. The statistics are out there as to what alcohol does to this country, yet they throw a fit about someone getting killed with a gun (not by a gun). It's a strange strange world we live in, Master Jack.
Life ain't supposed to be easy.
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Re: My body my choice!!!! / The war on drugs
[Re: Providence Farm]
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Re: My body my choice!!!! / The war on drugs
[Re: Providence Farm]
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10/11/20 03:51 PM
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Mark June
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Thoughts from an outdated era;
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Re: My body my choice!!!! / The war on drugs
[Re: Turtledale]
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10/11/20 04:02 PM
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Getting There
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I just want to have a pot plant or two growing next to my pepper plants Makes you a criminal in most states. I think you should have the right. Just like brewing beer wine etc.. Use it and don't sell it. If I get high on pot and run over your child on their bicycle and kill them, am I responsible for my actions or will I be let off the hook because I was exercising my right to do what I want with my body? No different than alcohol or prescription drugs from your Doc or working long hours and driving home half asleep. Doing everything has consequences. You could be swatting a bee and run over the kid on the bike the same way. I don't condone driving under the influence but I think everyone can do what they want with their body. Whether it's the guy smoking a joint or the guy ramming the double Whopper down his throat Come to Michigan you can have 12 plants for personal use. Go down the road and take a hit of LSD or a bit from a big make and see it the results are the same. Pot is not the answer to life along with alcohol, In parts of N.Y. you can not even have bird feeders. Please stay in N.Y.
To Old U.S. Army 60-63 SGT.
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Re: My body my choice!!!! / The war on drugs
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Thoughts from an outdated era; X2!
Let's go Brandon!
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Re: My body my choice!!!! / The war on drugs
[Re: bowhunter27295]
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10/11/20 06:41 PM
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If a drunk were to hurt anyone in my family, hades would rain down on them. I am violently protective of my family.
Would I be wrong to kill that person that killed my child while high or drunk? How many children would I orphan? Would I widow a wife or husband?
I wish people could be responsible when drinking or smoking pot or sniffing cocaine, but it is a detachment from reality to think anyone can control themselves when high.
I guess that is my attachment to reality. I don't understand why some people choose to ignore this reality when it shows itself everyday. Many times in their own individual family lives.
It baffles me to no end. You are wrong to thing people can't control themselves when high. Most just don't have self control, and that goes for all drugs and alcohol. I had a buddy who would drink like a fish but always ended up driven and getting a dui. I have knowen many of older guy who have drank every day and drove all over the country side never to have harmed one sole or got a dui. Same goes for pot I know many people who smoke every day and have never hurt or killed anyone or got any any serious trouble. I would rather have por heads around me then a drinker, they get load and stupid.
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Re: My body my choice!!!! / The war on drugs
[Re: Providence Farm]
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10/11/20 07:55 PM
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I don't think alcohol holds the title as the most abused substance,I saw a article awhile back from a local substance abuse center that said our area runs about 83% drug,17%alcohol in reported abuse pdoblems.It also said that was pretty much the national trend.Regardless,I hear the "it's my right to use whatever I want in the privacy of my home",but I don't see that.I see these same people use before work,at lunch,after work,in front of the kids,etc.I see them try to come up with all kind of schemes to fool work place drug tests.I've heard without exception people who sell say they never deal to kids but our schools are awash in drugs so somebody selling to them.When Michigan came up with a medical marijuana law it didn't take long before people pulled over for impaired driving were using the excuse they a medical condition that they gave them the right.In the legalize drugs argument I hear one thing,but see another.The reality.
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Re: My body my choice!!!! / The war on drugs
[Re: Providence Farm]
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10/11/20 08:32 PM
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danny clifton
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If I thought the war on drugs was curtailing supply and preventing addiction I would be all for it. But it isn't. Not even a little. Putting addicts and recreational users in prison is stupid. Illegal drugs are everywhere. its easier for a 13 year old to buy meth than it is cigarettes. Cigarettes are legal. What else do you need to know about the war on drugs?
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: My body my choice!!!! / The war on drugs
[Re: Buck (Zandra)]
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10/11/20 08:41 PM
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Mark June
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I don't think alcohol holds the title as the most abused substance,I saw a article awhile back from a local substance abuse center that said our area runs about 83% drug,17%alcohol in reported abuse pdoblems.It also said that was pretty much the national trend.Regardless,I hear the "it's my right to use whatever I want in the privacy of my home",but I don't see that.I see these same people use before work,at lunch,after work,in front of the kids,etc.I see them try to come up with all kind of schemes to fool work place drug tests.I've heard without exception people who sell say they never deal to kids but our schools are awash in drugs so somebody selling to them.When Michigan came up with a medical marijuana law it didn't take long before people pulled over for impaired driving were using the excuse they a medical condition that they gave them the right.In the legalize drugs argument I hear one thing,but see another.The reality. Yep Yes Si
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Re: My body my choice!!!! / The war on drugs
[Re: bowhunter27295]
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10/11/20 08:44 PM
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If a drunk were to hurt anyone in my family, hades would rain down on them. I am violently protective of my family.
Would I be wrong to kill that person that killed my child while high or drunk? How many children would I orphan? Would I widow a wife or husband?
I wish people could be responsible when drinking or smoking pot or sniffing cocaine, but it is a detachment from reality to think anyone can control themselves when high.
I guess that is my attachment to reality. I don't understand why some people choose to ignore this reality when it shows itself everyday. Many times in their own individual family lives.
It baffles me to no end. That person would be behind bars and you wouldn't be able to touch them. That is the reality. And yes, you would be wrong to kill someone for it. It's not your decision who lives and dies and you would and should be punished, here and in the afterlife....I understand how you would feel though. I wish no-one would ever have to lose a loved one to a drunk driver.
No Jab.
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