Re: Best Chain Sharpener? Bench Mount
[Re: ChadC]
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not what you asked but I also hand sharpen I have a saw horse at the right height for me which is tall it has a vise mounted on it
it has a shelf under it I can put my foot on the shelf to hold or put some weight on it. lock bar in vice
the Bucking Billy ray videos posted above , he is a goof but really understand the working edges of saw chain
get the gullet out , get the working edge a file not even a guide is needed if you like draw lines at the correct angle on the saw horse but most chains already have a line at the angle on them you only need to take material till the cutter is sharp
adjust your rakers to your wood , read the chip.
if your sharpening hundreds of chains off saw for
is it absolutely the sharpest most perfect chain ever , I concede it may not be there may be some expensive grinder that gets them all perfect
but compared to most of the lesser expensive grinders you will get many times the life out of a chain than taking it some place to have it ground or what most people do with a grinding machine
a few files and a raker gauge and a vice and you can do very nice work , make chains cut very well and have chains that last you a long time
a spare bar in your bench vice at home can also make a good filing jig
flip your bar once in a while for even wear every time you get through a 2 gallon can of gas approximately
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Re: Best Chain Sharpener? Bench Mount
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I have one of these, but it doesn't fit between the teeth on the chain that came on the saw. Are there chains that spread the teeth out more?[/quote you have to get one that is appropriate to your chain .404. 3/8 (.375) .325 1/4 the chain pitch is the distance between rivets that sets the distance between cutters Sorry, don’t mean to hijack the thread. Both the chain and sharpener are .325. Is the sharpener supposed to ride on top of the previous tooth like it does on mine? I didn’t think it was, but maybe that’s why I can’t figure out how to use it.
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Re: Best Chain Sharpener? Bench Mount
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Eh...I grind 10 or so at at time. I’d like to see someone file a chain quicker than I can change one. Never happen. Simple to change a chain.
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Re: Best Chain Sharpener? Bench Mount
[Re: Bigfoot]
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I can file one in less time than i can change one . I run 98 link stihl full chisel 3/8 and the high grade stihl 13/64 file . Have you considered getting a wrench the right size to take the plate off instead of a metric adjustable pipe wrench ?? Because you must be really slow at changing a chain. Either that or you are working towards the chain from the wrong side of the saw
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Re: Best Chain Sharpener? Bench Mount
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I picked up one about 3 years ago at Harbor Freight (yes, it's Chinese, sad to say). They had 'em on sale, and IIRC, I paid $39 with the bs coupons. I've probably sharpened chains 500 times with it, and never had a problem. Brings 'em back better than new. Still need to do the rakers by hand. Takes maybe 5 minutes to do a chain. You need to periodically adjust all the settings, but I'd gladly do it again for the price.
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Re: Best Chain Sharpener? Bench Mount
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I sharpen on the saw with a stone in a cordless Dremel. It's the power tool version of hand filing. Faster than hand filing or bench grinding since I do it on the saw. If you can hold a file at the right angle, you can hold a Dremel too. I can grind the rakers in a flash too.
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Re: Best Chain Sharpener? Bench Mount9
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I can file one in less time than i can change one . I run 98 link stihl full chisel 3/8 and the high grade stihl 13/64 file . Have you considered getting a wrench the right size to take the plate off instead of a metric adjustable pipe wrench ?? Because you must be really slow at changing a chain. Either that or you are working towards the chain from the wrong side of the saw Ill admit i dont carry a stop watch with me , but it sure seems easier to me to give each tooth two or three strokes and go on . If i rock one its a different story I still file it
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Re: Best Chain Sharpener? Bench Mount9
[Re: ChadC]
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Maybe you just like to file. You know what they say. Time flies when you are having fun. I have given up on files for the very reason that it is way quicker to just change the chain. I have to add to that though that I use either a 25 or a 36 inch bar, so have a few more of the buggers to file on a full comp chain that if I were to use a small saw with a 14 inch what I consider pruning bar on it.
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Re: Best Chain Sharpener? Bench Mount9
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Maybe you just like to file. You know what they say. Time flies when you are having fun. I have given up on files for the very reason that it is way quicker to just change the chain. I have to add to that though that I use either a 25 or a 36 inch bar, so have a few more of the buggers to file on a full comp chain that if I were to use a small saw with a 14 inch what I consider pruning bar on it. Im a logger by trade i run 661s with 30" bars 98 link chains i have one small saw a 461 with a 25" bar and a 84 link chain i keep it because it fits in the skidder cab nicely .I typacaly burn atleast 5 gallons of mix gas a week I keep my chains very sharp Sharpening chains is not what i want to think about when i get home . Im sure bench grinding is like filing , some folks are better at it than others .
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Re: Best Chain Sharpener? Bench Mount
[Re: ChadC]
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There is a 60 page post on this very subject. Ope forum.
I try and file after every tank. Those chains are sharper and last a lot longer than ones ground only.
To each their own, my sword is littler than those two guys lol.
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Re: Best Chain Sharpener? Bench Mount9
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Those things are a pain in the rear. I worked for a company back in Germany that made wood moldings. I made and sharpened the tooling for them. They always wanted me to do the band saws as well but I managed to finagle my way around them unless I absolutely had to do it because of the guys being sick / on holiday ... other than that I managed to stay well away from those buggers. That 8 foot bar length electric chainsaw was bad enough. They used it to cut whole packets of lumber to length and I will never know why they kept trying to cut the metal straps with it as well.
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Re: Best Chain Sharpener? Bench Mount9
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Once again, I have a Harbor Freight chain sharpener, and it is great for ME! You have to make sure that you're grinding the right angle, and you have to adjust the length/depth when you switch sides. This is not a dial and go (if you want a good sharp chain), but if you pay attention to what is important on a chain, you'll do a good job. Good luck!
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Re: Best Chain Sharpener? Bench Mount9
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I am currently building a band saw mill , so will probably end up having to sharpen band saw blades as well. But these are going to be a lot smaller than the ones we had at work back then . Those suckers were 8 inches from the blade tip to the back of the blade the wheels of the saw where 5 feet across and the lower wheel was under the floor and the other 8 foot above ground. Working in tandem. One saw fixed the other movable and slightly offset. So you could rip a board or slab into three boars upright.
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Re: Best Chain Sharpener? Bench Mount9
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The problem with most cheap sharpeners is the sloppy tolerances. that comes into effect when you try and get all the teeth exactly the same length but the machine has to much loose in to and or flex that you have to be very consistent in your own movements to get good results. The more expensive machines are tighter and make grinding easier and more precise. With those you can just lightly touch op a chain . More so if using CBN grinding wheels. If I take my time, I can get a almost mirror finish on the front of the tooth and gullet. But I have to admit that i am not usually that fussy when I sharpen my own chains. Just sharp is good enough for the most part as here I have sandy soil, so unless I leave a high stump, there is fine sand in the bark that dulls a chain pretty fast anyway. So I go through 3 to 6 chains a day that I have to sharpen in the evening. If i get to fussy, it would cut into my drinking time .
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