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I think we raised our son right #7036129
11/02/20 10:26 PM
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Matthew, our oldest son.
Good Christian man, now 38 years old with a wife and 4 kiddos.
Just sent his old man this.
FUNNY!!!

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I think we did ok raising this one.

Re: I think we raised our son right [Re: ] #7036139
11/02/20 10:37 PM
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Yes. You raised him well Mark Good Job.

Re: I think we raised our son right [Re: ] #7036140
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He's 6'5" 230
I'm 6'0" buck 70.
He calls me little man in good fun
He's voting to try to help keep this country headed conservative for his 12, 9, 4, 2 year olds.
Papa and mimi are right there with he and his wife, who stepped down from LE in San Antonio to raise their children.

Re: I think we raised our son right [Re: ] #7036146
11/02/20 10:45 PM
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My son is about the same age, a father of four, but of different political convictions than yours.

Jim


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Re: I think we raised our son right [Re: ] #7036147
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There you go again James.
Makin a funny.

Re: I think we raised our son right [Re: ] #7036151
11/02/20 10:47 PM
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Nope. My son ain't voting for Trump, whom he considers a godless man.

Jim


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Re: I think we raised our son right [Re: ] #7036158
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Jim,
Your believer son?
Now I KNOW you're funnin me.

Re: I think we raised our son right [Re: ] #7036173
11/02/20 10:54 PM
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Good man.


Leave this long-haired country boy alone...
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Good Job Mark!!!


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Re: I think we raised our son right [Re: James] #7036179
11/02/20 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by James
Nope. My son ain't voting for Trump, whom he considers a godless man.

Jim



Your son doesn't vote then?

Or he must vote third party?


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Son Paul believes the Christian community is failing its principles by backing Trump.

Paul has debated the issue intensively in his church. His old man's opinions didn't have anything to do with his views on Trump. Look more toward the children that were taken from their parents on our border, and are held apart still, to find one of the causes for his reasoning.

I am indeed proud of him.

Of course he won't vote for Biden either, because of his VP pick's stand on abortion. He's lodging a third-party vote this time.

Jim


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That's awesome Mark.

My dad and I had a running joke where he'd tell me to stop looking down on him, I'd tell him to hurry up and grow then laugh my dad came up to my shoulders

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The border kids are there because of there parents not because of us.

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James I know brethren similar to your son. Maybe remind him 1) obama built the cages 2) a lot of those children that are missing parents were more than likely A) trafficked or B)) left home on their own to migrate.

Many kids every year flea their home countries on their own to start a better life. I've known several like that. If you ever watch border patrol shows you'll often see those stories.

Re: I think we raised our son right [Re: James] #7036225
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Originally Posted by James
Son Paul believes the Christian community is failing its principles by backing Trump.

Paul has debated the issue intensively in his church. His old man's opinions didn't have anything to do with his views on Trump. Look more toward the children that were taken from their parents on our border, and are held apart still, to find one of the causes for his reasoning.

I am indeed proud of him.

Of course he won't vote for Biden either, because of his VP pick's stand on abortion. He's lodging a third-party vote this time.

Jim


Well that makes sense from the democrat platform on abortion.
The border (we're down here) is a mess and dangerous and it has nothing to do with people being taken from their parents IMO. That's media drivel.
The San Antonio detention facility is NICE! Nicer than where they came from. The courts are a mess because of decades of a mess.
My ranches near Laredo and Del Rio both are BAD BAD BAD places and I watch my back when I'm alone. Tequilla bottles everywhere where there used to be water bottles tossed. Drugs, drugs, drugs and human trafficking. Brooks county is terrible.
One President can't fix all this mess. Too much $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ flowing back and forth.
But one president has been down here ALL THE TIME.
We have too many people have an opinion never come and look at it.




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Thanks for the insight. The border patrol surly have there hands full.

Re: I think we raised our son right [Re: ] #7036236
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For Paul, the abortion issue is a big one. He and I don't agree all the way there.

No matter how nice, a detention center is still a detention center. And the people who separated the kids and parents had "U.S." printed on their uniforms.

But I don't know all of his reasoning. He did go on two mission trips to Mexico before he was married, and maybe that experience affected him.

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Re: I think we raised our son right [Re: ] #7036238
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Good for you Mark! My mom and I have frequent debates over politics and how Christianity is intertwined. Shes pro Trump and I voted for Libertarian candidate Jo Jorgensen today. She says that our laws should adhere to Biblical principles whereas I say that we have freewill and laws should only punish us when we infringe on other peoples rights. My viewpoint is that the government cannot legislate morality. Fun stuff!

Re: I think we raised our son right [Re: ] #7036241
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I don't really know how you solve one side being incredibly poor and across the border incredibly wealthy and "safe."
I totally understand sneaking across. Heck, I'd sneak across.
But we've had years of stupid judges making stupid rulings against human suffering and now the money has taken over. All of it.
People get killed on the border either side who dare say a thing. People are scared and shrug shoulders.
Mexico is corrupt. Like living next to N. Korea. What'd do ya do? I don't know honestly.
South America is becoming N. Korea. It won't get better soon.
The US printed shirts are the good guys trust me.
Mothers giving girls 10 and up birth control on the journey because all will be raped.
If the mothers come at all.

I'll hopefully be headed to minister in Panama when Covid breaks and ministry efforts open back up.
They're poorer yet.

No easy answers but the news media your son is watching are inaccurate and bias. I meet BPO all the time and they are just like officers in a war zone. Doing the best they can with the laws on the books. Tell your son to get on his phone to your US congress people. They pass legislation.

Re: I think we raised our son right [Re: BanditBuster] #7036247
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Originally Posted by BanditBuster
Good for you Mark! My mom and I have frequent debates over politics and how Christianity is intertwined. Shes pro Trump and I voted for Libertarian candidate Jo Jorgensen today. She says that our laws should adhere to Biblical principles whereas I say that we have freewill and laws should only punish us when we infringe on other peoples rights. My viewpoint is that the government cannot legislate morality. Fun stuff!


I would offer that in a democratic republic, the people are the law maker voter inners.
We have been a sloppy people for decades as far as legislative representatives.
We're good at making money.
Working hard.
Don't care what other people do behind closed doors.
Don't judge me I won't judge you.
All sorts of one liners.

How we doing as a nation with 100 years of that plan?
Better now than when it was started?
I guess we'll decided at the polls.
Or not.

I say we have a moral obligation not as far as salvation is concerned but it's 100% biblical to care for the outcasts, the orphan, widow, and aliens who depend on us as followers to make this world accommodating for them. It should start with us. Who else? Progressives? Liberal theologians? Nope. They always talk and do diddly.

You're right on the government regulating morality. That brings about sticky wickets.

Blessings,
Mark

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