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Personal ethics #7045934
11/11/20 08:30 AM
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Okay, forget national whatever. This is about you personally.

If you could gain a prime award. An award that is a personal goal but can be anything important to you BUT to the vast majority of your friends and colleagues the method by which the award was granted appears to be questionable or even outright wrong.

Question, do you accept the reward?

Me, I would refuse the award and insist that until such time as all facts be brought to light disassociate myself from the process. My good name is far more important if for no other reason than my own vanity.

But maybe I'm just a Pollyanna.


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Re: Personal ethics [Re: warrior] #7045938
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You're an honest Conservative........not a bought-and-paid-for Democrat......


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Re: Personal ethics [Re: warrior] #7045976
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If I truly earned it then yes I would accept.

Ethics come in when when you are given a Nobel Peace prize for not earning it. I wouldn't accept something like that.

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If the only thing in life we desire is the end point then the long journey of life has little meaning. In many cases in our history and other events we don't recognize the contributions and values of people and events until long after they are passed or the events are over. When I was a very new instructor I developed a system by which my students could manage and develop a genetic herd so they could understand inheritance. My supervisor thought it was a good program and submitted it in his name for a merit award and he received the award. My co-workers were really mad, but for me seeing my students gain better knowledge was the real value.

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Re: Personal ethics [Re: warrior] #7046102
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Re: Personal ethics [Re: warrior] #7046115
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First of all I had to look up Pollyanna. I'm not the type of person that would except any award. If good things I do make people better or feel better that's great. As far as recognition, I don't need it. Me and the Maker know what my life has been like.


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Re: Personal ethics [Re: Hoosier71] #7046125
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Originally Posted by Hoosier71
If I truly earned it then yes I would accept.

Ethics come in when when you are given a Nobel Peace prize for not earning it. I wouldn't accept something like that.

You mean like Obana did for doing nothing?


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Re: Personal ethics [Re: warrior] #7046129
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I prefer not to have my name made public. I’ve turned down public recognition at work, but did tell them to go ahead and deposit the funds to my company card, lol. Then again, I’ve never received recognition for something I didn’t do.

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Re: Personal ethics [Re: warrior] #7046135
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Re: Personal ethics [Re: Trapper7] #7046143
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Originally Posted by Trapper7
Originally Posted by Hoosier71
If I truly earned it then yes I would accept.

Ethics come in when when you are given a Nobel Peace prize for not earning it. I wouldn't accept something like that.

You mean like Obana did for doing nothing?


I gotta fact check you here, Obama did two major things during his presidency, the first thing was make every conservative a racist through the eyes of the media, the second thing he did was put a bullseye on law enforcement. He did some other stuff to but those are the two things that stick out in my mind.

Re: Personal ethics [Re: warrior] #7046184
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keystone, you are right about those two things. But, if you google Obama Nobel Peace Prize, it states they couldn't really find a reason he got one, even referring to him as getting it for doing nothing to deserve it.

Setting racism back to the pre-MLK days certainly was one of his most major accomplishments.


Must be nice to eat ice cream as fast as you want and not have to worry about brain freeze.
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I was in the forth grade. Teacher gave us an assignment to do. I was doing my thing, and it came down to the wire to turn in. I grabbed a book and found a short story, which was the assignment. Yep, plaugerized that sucker. One of lifes lessons and made a better person of me! Teacher thought it great and announced in class that I had turned in the best story. Uh oh, man my conscience was eating me up. I missed the bus that afternoon to go and confess my sin to the teacher. I walked about a mile and half home that afternoon, then told mom. That's when I really learned the value of this leason.


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Originally Posted by lee steinmeyer
I was in the forth grade. Teacher gave us an assignment to do. I was doing my thing, and it came down to the wire to turn in. I grabbed a book and found a short story, which was the assignment. Yep, plaugerized that sucker. One of lifes lessons and made a better person of me! Teacher thought it great and announced in class that I had turned in the best story. Uh oh, man my conscience was eating me up. I missed the bus that afternoon to go and confess my sin to the teacher. I walked about a mile and half home that afternoon, then told mom. That's when I really learned the value of this leason.


Huh, I cheated everyday in school, never felt bad about cheating my way through something I did not want to participate in. In 9th grade or so I learned I could intercept my report card and then make a fake one, went as far as to pull the logo off the school website and everything, saved a template so it only took me a few mins to come up with a fake one to give my parents. Did that for years.

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Donner, you think that is alright? Cheating is for losers. My mom and dad beat that in my head. Yours should have too.....no matter how old you are.


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Re: Personal ethics [Re: Donnersurvivor] #7046227
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Originally Posted by Donnersurvivor
Originally Posted by lee steinmeyer
I was in the forth grade. Teacher gave us an assignment to do. I was doing my thing, and it came down to the wire to turn in. I grabbed a book and found a short story, which was the assignment. Yep, plaugerized that sucker. One of lifes lessons and made a better person of me! Teacher thought it great and announced in class that I had turned in the best story. Uh oh, man my conscience was eating me up. I missed the bus that afternoon to go and confess my sin to the teacher. I walked about a mile and half home that afternoon, then told mom. That's when I really learned the value of this leason.


Huh, I cheated everyday in school, never felt bad about cheating my way through something I did not want to participate in. In 9th grade or so I learned I could intercept my report card and then make a fake one, went as far as to pull the logo off the school website and everything, saved a template so it only took me a few mins to come up with a fake one to give my parents. Did that for years.



Lying to your parents is not something to be proud of,Donner,let alone brag about.


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How’d this go from someone proud of cheating to someone possibly getting recognized for something and others not thinking it’s on the up and up.

I do know now that anything I read or hear about Donner is a lie or he cheated to get it or accomplish it...some things just don’t need to be on social media, lol.

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I don't seek awards so I have no opinion regarding this question.


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Whatever guys. I'm glad I made it through school my way, I have the paper to show for it. Should I have turned down the diploma? I didn't belong there and a threat of violence made me go everyday.

The only thing that could get me to school was the threat of violence, my mom tried to let me skip and make me do terrible jobs around the farm and I would always take that option.

The thread was about personal ethics and kinda vague, it may have drifted a bit off topic. Now you know a bit about my personal ethics, if you physically force me to do something with the threat of being hit if I do not comply I will do it but you will get a very minimum effort.

Re: Personal ethics [Re: lee steinmeyer] #7046298
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Originally Posted by lee steinmeyer
Donner, you think that is alright? Cheating is for losers. My mom and dad beat that in my head. Yours should have too.....no matter how old you are.

This ^^^^^

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