Re: Bennifits of a 24 hr. Check on traps
[Re: red mt]
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24hr check laws are mainly for areas where ag land and urban land are networked together and the possibility of a domestic catch exist. There are many things both trapper and pet owner can do to minimize the possibility, but it happens now and then.
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Re: Bennifits of a 24 hr. Check on traps
[Re: gman]
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11/12/20 08:13 AM
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I don't see how a person could longline on a 24 hour check.....makes no sense to me. Agreed , Imo there is no way the miles that has to be put on to cover the ground is crazy out out here in the west. Time it takes for a critter to come back through might be a week or 2. On k-9 and on cats 30 -40days is not uncommon. And then there weather condition that just is not safe to drive or be in some states. I also believe most trappers know when to check traps. And there is no law stating you must wait to look at traps either. I know of. 24 hr laws are unneeded
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Re: Bennifits of a 24 hr. Check on traps
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Well, it'll keep you from getting fined in Iowa. (With the exception of sets designed to drown, but IMO I'd be ok if that was private ground only since it gets abused in my view.) I agree with 24hr. on public ground ,,,, You wouldn't want people driving/walking by and seeing an animal caught for days, bad PR,,,, However on private ground not so much. I have chased off coyotes from sets by having to come check everyday, so off the road and out of the uneducated public's view they are fine IMO. Summery, 24hr on public, 48 on private ground, I think is a good compromise. I like this idea.
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Re: Bennifits of a 24 hr. Check on traps
[Re: red mt]
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By compromise we gave something up , in tring to make the people happy that want to see us gone period not sound thinking imo.
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Re: Bennifits of a 24 hr. Check on traps
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I don't see how a person could longline on a 24 hour check.....makes no sense to me. That's why a lot of trappers and game depts. call it "recreational"trapping.The laws today are made to reflect a hobby,not a industry.I personally cringe when I see it referred to as a sport or recreation in the news media because I know how they're going to use it.But it seems like that's the way everybody wants to view it,at least in this country.Canada takes it more seriously.I wish this country did.
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Re: Bennifits of a 24 hr. Check on traps
[Re: red mt]
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11/12/20 08:45 AM
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ADC: "Well, it'll keep you from getting fined in Iowa. frown (With the exception of sets designed to drown, but IMO I'd be ok if that was private ground only since it gets abused in my view.) I agree with 24hr. on public ground ,,,, You wouldn't want people driving/walking by and seeing an animal caught for days, bad PR,,,, However on private ground not so much. I have chased off coyotes from sets by having to come check everyday, so off the road and out of the uneducated public's view they are fine IMO. Summery, 24hr on public, 48 on private ground, I think is a good compromise." By compromise we gave something up , in tring to make the people happy that want to see us gone period not sound thinking imo. But if your in a 24hr check state now, you would gain something with this compromise.
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Re: Bennifits of a 24 hr. Check on traps
[Re: red mt]
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We have a daily check law in michigan. What some call a 24 hour check. It can be tough some times but I make my check every day because I don't want anyone seeing an animal in a trap for an extended period and have that start problems for me or other trappers. I checked at 1030 pm yesterday because I was working out of town. I would love a 48 hour check because on those days I could wait until morning. Until that happens I will deal with the daily check.
Wish I had more time to trap....
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Re: Bennifits of a 24 hr. Check on traps
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One thing on 24 hour checks most people don’t think about. If you set a trap at 8 AM, you have to check that trap by 8 AM the next day and no later or else you are technically breaking the law. This is the reason Pennsylvania has a 36 hour check law. I forget which state, but I remember reading once the state had a 24 hour check law and a Warden busted a trapper for going beyond the 24 hour limit even though the trapper was checking his traps the next day. The state then apparently changed their wording to limit this chicken crap stuff from happening again. Maybe one of you remembers which state this occurred in. I was going to make that point Grandpa trapper but you beat me to it. And you are exactly right.
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Re: Bennifits of a 24 hr. Check on traps
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Even if we didn't have a 36 hour check limit here in PA I would still check my traps every morning. A trap with a fox in it isn't going to catch another one until the set is remade. And there is too much chance of the public getting nosy where I trap. I don't need reds bouncing around all day attracting unwanted attention.
From what little I know about western and northern long-lining, 24 hours checks don't seem to have much benefit or make much sense.
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Re: Bennifits of a 24 hr. Check on traps
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I don't see how a person could longline on a 24 hour check.....makes no sense to me. That's why a lot of trappers and game depts. call it "recreational"trapping.The laws today are made to reflect a hobby,not a industry.I personally cringe when I see it referred to as a sport or recreation in the news media because I know how they're going to use it.But it seems like that's the way everybody wants to view it,at least in this country.Canada takes it more seriously.I wish this country did. Amen amen
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Re: Bennifits of a 24 hr. Check on traps
[Re: Lugnut]
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One thing on 24 hour checks most people don’t think about. If you set a trap at 8 AM, you have to check that trap by 8 AM the next day and no later or else you are technically breaking the law. This is the reason Pennsylvania has a 36 hour check law. I forget which state, but I remember reading once the state had a 24 hour check law and a Warden busted a trapper for going beyond the 24 hour limit even though the trapper was checking his traps the next day. The state then apparently changed their wording to limit this chicken crap stuff from happening again. Maybe one of you remembers which state this occurred in. I was going to make that point Grandpa trapper but you beat me to it. And you are exactly right. Can someone post the regulation as worded in the State Guide? I’m curious what states have it.
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Re: Bennifits of a 24 hr. Check on traps
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Even if we didn't have a 36 hour check limit here in PA I would still check my traps every morning. A trap with a fox in it isn't going to catch another one until the set is remade. And there is too much chance of the public getting nosy where I trap. I don't need reds bouncing around all day attracting unwanted attention.
From what little I know about western and northern long-lining, 24 hours checks don't seem to have much benefit or make much sense. Agreed , You made a good comment you can always look sooner at a trap than the law states if you so choose.
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Re: Bennifits of a 24 hr. Check on traps
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Can someone post the regulation as worded in the State Guide?
I’m curious what states have it.
PA Title 34 SUBCHAPTER D FURTAKING REGULATIONS § 2361. Unlawful acts concerning taking of furbearers: (10) Use any trap of any kind unless visited and all animals and birds released or removed at least once every 36 hours.
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Re: Bennifits of a 24 hr. Check on traps
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I don't need reds bouncing around all day attracting unwanted attention. This used to be a huge concern for me. Last year I started engaging the nosey folks. Turns out most of them don’t like critters. lol
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Re: Bennifits of a 24 hr. Check on traps
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Can someone post the regulation as worded in the State Guide?
I’m curious what states have it. More important that what is in the State Guide is the specific wording in the act passed by the legislature. What the legislature passed is what is legally binding, not the interpretation published by the F&G dept. They usually match but sometimes there is an important difference.
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Re: Bennifits of a 24 hr. Check on traps
[Re: red mt]
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So far I do not see many benefits to a 24hr. Check. Gents Would not a wanton waste law be better???
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Re: Bennifits of a 24 hr. Check on traps
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So far I do not see many benefits to a 24hr. Check. Gents Would not a wanton waste law be better??? Not many, is true however the benefits it does have are of great value for trappers in urban settings.
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