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Tire explosion #7057787
11/21/20 02:23 PM
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I used to work in a tire shop. Changing large truck tires for big rigs has it's safety challenges. Especially the old split rims. This video shows the value of an inflation cage. 1min 15sec



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Re: Tire explosion [Re: Cragar] #7057804
11/21/20 02:37 PM
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We had the split rims in the service and witnessed one go pop. Fortunately cages were mandatory.

I wonder how many still know how to break them down by hand?


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Re: Tire explosion [Re: warrior] #7057811
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Originally Posted by warrior
We had the split rims in the service and witnessed one go pop. Fortunately cages were mandatory.

I wonder how many still know how to break them down by hand?

I still remember how to break them down by hand. I also know a way to safely inflate one without a cage in a pinch , not the preferred method but doable if you have no cage available. A cage is the best and safest method.


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Re: Tire explosion [Re: Cragar] #7057812
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That's impressive. I've never had to deal with those, and never want to.

Re: Tire explosion [Re: Cragar] #7057823
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Originally Posted by warrior
We had the split rims in the service and witnessed one go pop. Fortunately cages were mandatory.

I wonder how many still know how to break them down by hand?

Can add me to that list, some of our implements still use split rims. Brother and I was just talking about how few folks know how to work a split rim as we changed a tube out a few weeks ago. For that matter, I expect a lot of folks wouldn't know what a tube was for other than taking to the lake. crazy

Re: Tire explosion [Re: warrior] #7057831
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Originally Posted by warrior
We had the split rims in the service and witnessed one go pop. Fortunately cages were mandatory.

I wonder how many still know how to break them down by hand?


We fix 90% of our truck tires. Got rid of the last split rims last year. I’ve been breaking them down since I was a kid. Scared me then and scares me now.


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Re: Tire explosion [Re: Pawnee] #7057834
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Originally Posted by Pawnee
Scared me then and scares me now.


Ditto. I'm not scared of much. But I've never liked working with split rims.


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Re: Tire explosion [Re: Cragar] #7057925
11/21/20 03:54 PM
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Changed a lot of those when I worked in the mine. We changed them on the Cat 631 d tractors and 988 loaders. Couldn't use a cage because we changed them out while wheel was on the machine

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11/21/20 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by sako22
Changed a lot of those when I worked in the mine. We changed them on the Cat 631 d tractors and 988 loaders. Couldn't use a cage because we changed them out while wheel was on the machine


We had some big stuff like scrapers and loaders that had to be done that way. It was a full platoon job to swap put that rubber. D7 blade made for a nice cage.


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Ralph Nader named the split rims 'widow makers"..
I spent 6 years doing truck tires, tractor tires, combine tires. That makes a man old real fast.


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Re: Tire explosion [Re: Cragar] #7058048
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We used forklift to change them. The new tires could be a real pain to get to take air sometimes. Inflated to 95 psi if I remember right

Re: Tire explosion [Re: Cragar] #7058061
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Wasn’t there a trick with WD 40 or something like that ...that when sprayed in the tire and ignited.....it sealed the tire on the rim. Saw my friends do it a few times.


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Originally Posted by Nessmuck
Wasn’t there a trick with WD 40 or something like that ...that when sprayed in the tire and ignited.....it sealed the tire on the rim. Saw my friends do it a few times.

Ether.

I've done it , a bit dicey but fun and a bit dangerous.....lol


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Re: Tire explosion [Re: Cragar] #7058081
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I got tired of warning people at the shop when they filled up the split rims for the forklift. We finally switched to solid tires.

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When i worked at Pollack Steel I'd help out in the shop sometimes when yard work was slow. I was always told to stand off to the side when inflating split rims. That way you only lose a hand or lower arm instead of your life.


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Originally Posted by Cragar
Originally Posted by Nessmuck
Wasn’t there a trick with WD 40 or something like that ...that when sprayed in the tire and ignited.....it sealed the tire on the rim. Saw my friends do it a few times.

Ether.

I've done it , a bit dicey but fun and a bit dangerous.....lol


It was a neat way of getting it done......until someone looses an eye....


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It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.
Re: Tire explosion [Re: Cragar] #7058141
11/21/20 08:00 PM
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As far as the widow makers or safety split rims, around here I dont think anyone here did them after the mid nineties.

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