Re: yahoo says civil war is very possible
[Re: James]
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Mark, I'm surprised you're not doing better in this discussion.
But your position is untenable, so maybe I shouldn't be.
Jim I got one hand tied behind my back and one leg propped on the dining room chair. I'm also finishing an apologetic for the Book of Job, about 20 pages, so my focus is in the Lord, as I make a few side bars here on TMan. Sorry, I can't give my all! Blessings, Mark
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Re: yahoo says civil war is very possible
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I will make a contribution. Where do I send it? You gotta get Jimmy to shut his pie hole first ....lol I offered up a bet , he wouldn't take it ......
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Re: yahoo says civil war is very possible
[Re: danny clifton]
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Actually James, wall street loves the talk of more stimulus and a vaccine and who knows what. Been an incredible past two weeks on wall street. I'm big into ADS and we're paying tuition and then some with that chart. Visa, MasterCard, and ADS are all ^^^^^^^.
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Re: yahoo says civil war is very possible
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Plus this news is encouraging. JB will stop it for sure.
Thursday: Director of National Intelligence John Ratcliffe on Thursday told CBS News reporter Catherine Herridge that the communist Chinese government is using blackmail, bribery, and covert operations to target lawmakers on Capitol Hill as part of a broad effort to influence policymaking.
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Re: yahoo says civil war is very possible
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Yeah, I can't help looking at the video through a legal prism, Mark. My view is relevant because the claim of fraudulent voting will be decided in the legal arena. So don't try to pooh-pooh the toolkit I'm bringing to this discussion.
You'll note that both of the attorneys here said the same thing regarding the admissibility of that video.
The evidence rules aren't legal technicalities. They're intended to limit admissible evidence to "good" evidence.
By itself that videotape isn't good evidence. Not without a witness or two who can authenticate it. Look at it from the court's view: the video might show anything; could be just some random office.
But let's suppose you have a witness to authenticate the video. Is it now admissible? Shouldn't be. In fact the proceeding shouldn't be at all. Why not?
Because we have no opposing party present. Georgia is entitled to respond aren't they? To test the evidence by cross-examination?
You think that's fair, don't you? Shouldn't we listen to Georgia's explanation for what the video shows? Maybe it's entirely innocent. Or maybe there was an honest error in judgment. A court doesn't presume fraud, which has to be shown by a higher standard of proof, clear and convincing evidence.
I suppose no one's going to read the above and pay attention to it, but I hope you do, Mark.
Jim
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Re: yahoo says civil war is very possible
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I didn't read all 12 pages, has the war started yet? Only on here!
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Re: yahoo says civil war is very possible
[Re: James]
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12/03/20 11:05 PM
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Yeah, I can't help looking at the video through a legal prism, Mark. My view is relevant because the claim of fraudulent voting will be decided in the legal arena. So don't try to pooh-pooh the toolkit I'm bringing to this discussion.
You'll note that both of the attorneys here said the same thing regarding the admissibility of that video.
The evidence rules aren't legal technicalities. They're intended to limit admissible evidence to "good" evidence.
By itself that videotape isn't good evidence. Not without a witness or two who can authenticate it. Look at it from the court's view: the video might show anything; could be just some random office.
But let's suppose you have a witness to authenticate the video. Is it now admissible? Shouldn't be. In fact the proceeding shouldn't be at all. Why not?
Because we have no opposing party present. Georgia is entitled to respond aren't they? To test the evidence by cross-examination?
You think that's fair, don't you? Shouldn't we listen to Georgia's explanation for what the video shows? Maybe it's entirely innocent. Or maybe there was an honest error in judgment. A court doesn't presume fraud, which has to be shown by a higher standard of proof, clear and convincing evidence.
I suppose no one's going to read the above and pay attention to it, but I hope you do, Mark.
Jim
Let me get this straight. If my home was burglarized and my home security camera filmed the burglary, that video wouldn't be admissible as evidence in court?
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Re: yahoo says civil war is very possible
[Re: danny clifton]
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12/03/20 11:14 PM
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J Staton, your home video would probably be admissible, if authenticated by your own testimony.
But the other side would have the opportunity to cross-examine you and offer their own evidence and explanations.
We still don't know, in this thread, what Georgia says about the claim of fraud by its election officials. Do we?
Jim
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Re: yahoo says civil war is very possible
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Yeah, I can't help looking at the video through a legal prism, Mark. My view is relevant because the claim of fraudulent voting will be decided in the legal arena. So don't try to pooh-pooh the toolkit I'm bringing to this discussion.
You'll note that both of the attorneys here said the same thing regarding the admissibility of that video.
The evidence rules aren't legal technicalities. They're intended to limit admissible evidence to "good" evidence.
By itself that videotape isn't good evidence. Not without a witness or two who can authenticate it. Look at it from the court's view: the video might show anything; could be just some random office.
But let's suppose you have a witness to authenticate the video. Is it now admissible? Shouldn't be. In fact the proceeding shouldn't be at all. Why not?
Because we have no opposing party present. Georgia is entitled to respond aren't they? To test the evidence by cross-examination?
You think that's fair, don't you? Shouldn't we listen to Georgia's explanation for what the video shows? Maybe it's entirely innocent. Or maybe there was an honest error in judgment. A court doesn't presume fraud, which has to be shown by a higher standard of proof, clear and convincing evidence.
I suppose no one's going to read the above and pay attention to it, but I hope you do, Mark.
Jim
Let me get this straight. If my home was burglarized and my home security camera filmed the burglary, that video wouldn't be admissible as evidence in court? You would testify as to it being your home, your security system and a few other things under oath to demonstrate authenticity. You can't just play YouTube videos in Court to prove your case.
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Re: yahoo says civil war is very possible
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12/03/20 11:16 PM
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J Staton, your home video would probably be admissible, if authenticated by your own testimony.
But the other side would have the opportunity to cross-examine you and offer their own evidence and explanations.
We still don't know, in this thread, what Georgia says about the claim of fraud by its election officials. Do we?
Jim You beat me to it.
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Re: yahoo says civil war is very possible
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Yeah, I can't help looking at the video through a legal prism, Mark. My view is relevant because the claim of fraudulent voting will be decided in the legal arena. So don't try to pooh-pooh the toolkit I'm bringing to this discussion.
You'll note that both of the attorneys here said the same thing regarding the admissibility of that video.
The evidence rules aren't legal technicalities. They're intended to limit admissible evidence to "good" evidence.
By itself that videotape isn't good evidence. Not without a witness or two who can authenticate it. Look at it from the court's view: the video might show anything; could be just some random office.
But let's suppose you have a witness to authenticate the video. Is it now admissible? Shouldn't be. In fact the proceeding shouldn't be at all. Why not?
Because we have no opposing party present. Georgia is entitled to respond aren't they? To test the evidence by cross-examination?
You think that's fair, don't you? Shouldn't we listen to Georgia's explanation for what the video shows? Maybe it's entirely innocent. Or maybe there was an honest error in judgment. A court doesn't presume fraud, which has to be shown by a higher standard of proof, clear and convincing evidence.
I suppose no one's going to read the above and pay attention to it, but I hope you do, Mark.
Jim
Let me get this straight. If my home was burglarized and my home security camera filmed the burglary, that video wouldn't be admissible as evidence in court? The burglar's scumbag attorney would argue that because it was filmed without his knowledge it should be excluded or that just how do we know it's your house being filmed. First thing to learn in scumbag school is facts don't matter if you can lie your way around the truth.
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