What's your point? The only people I hear cry about them are people who don't know how to use them properly

You apparently don't know Beav,or his history with the trade,that's my point.

Every animal I've caught has been 100% as dead as it gets. It can't be the trap he had to have been doing something wrong. Oh by the way just because I joined this year doesn't mean this is my first year trapping. Let's use fishing for and example im 26 and I've fished for 24vyears. Just just because my account is new doesn't mean I'm inexperienced myself.

Had more problems with the belishe than the Duke's. The original triggers had serious issues.

Some of the old timers got bad habits ingrained and were never able to fully correct them.
Thats where the old saying-"You cant teach an old dog new tricks" came from.
And I know from experience-I'm getting up there in age and I dont like "change".

The ones I bought back on the 16th are amazing not a single issue.

I was was gonna mention I've heard about problems with the old design. The new ones are in a league of their own

My dad in his 50's it's difficult to teach him sometimes but when he does listen he thanks me and I try to learn everything I can, not just for me but for people who ask for help and most importantly my dad because he's taught me more than I'll ever be able to repay him in my life time.