Re: Student loan debt
[Re: rex123]
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12/19/20 08:31 PM
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ONLY if they admit that the student loan debacle is a farce that has been a burden on our youth rather than a blessing and dismantle the whole program. Then we can talk about forgiveness.
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Re: Student loan debt
[Re: rex123]
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12/19/20 08:37 PM
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We're going to run out of things to give away free at some point.
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Re: Student loan debt
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12/19/20 08:39 PM
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I think I didn't go to college and now I pay a pile in taxes, if they use my taxes to bail out my peers I will... I will... ya I'll do nothing because I have no recourse as it is legal and "moral" to rob people in a democracy.
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Re: Student loan debt
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ONLY if they admit that the student loan debacle is a farce that has been a burden on our youth rather than a blessing and dismantle the whole program. Then we can talk about forgiveness. Not sure what the farce is? Not being able to require students to pursue majors that could payoff the loans in a reasonable amount of time is the problem. Perhaps maybe the part about the government guaranteeing the loans could be scrapped to put some pressure on the lenders and colleges to cut tuitions since that means that they. Colleges get paid whether the students graduate and can pay the loans back or not. In other words,let market forces return to education.
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Re: Student loan debt
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12/19/20 08:44 PM
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Crooked jo is already buying votes for the next election 4 years down the road. He is buying the vote for the young nothing more then that. I totally disagree with this gimmy/handout trying to look good for the young generation.
Most of this debt he is going to forgive are people that are doing nothing and partied their way through school. A big waste and what are you teaching our young >>> don't work the democratic will bale us out.
Crooked SOB is a joke!!
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Re: Student loan debt
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12/19/20 08:51 PM
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SniperB, the biggest problem is they give 18 year old kids who have no job, no idea what they want to do with their life guaranteed loans, with no cap, to attend any college they want for any classes they want. There are people $200k in debt for a social work degree! A $40k a year degree! That’s insane. Those teenagers don’t know what they’re getting into, they think they know everything, but they don’t. The government handing them those loans is putting handcuffs on them under the illusion of opportunity. Interest rates anywhere from 6-15 percent. And the fact that the government just hands these loans out has enabled the colleges to just charge whatever the flip they want for tuition. The entire student loan program must be scrapped. It’s a complete disaster.
If we did away with the whole situation people would be a lot more intentional about where they go to school, and for what, and they’d be able to afford it because universities would have to drop tuition rates or go bankrupt. The market would not bear their rates without guaranteed loans.
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Re: Student loan debt
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12/19/20 08:53 PM
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The program needs to end. Without the student loan program costs to attend college would be about 20% of what they are today. Colleges charge so much because they know anyone can get the money. They couldn't care less what kind of burden it puts on the young and dumb. They exist as business's.
Business operates on the make as much money as you can philosophy. I don't have a problem with that goal, I have a problem with government programs like guaranteed student loans that claim to benefit the children of people with little money. Putting massive debt on the backs of teenagers, even with low interest, is a bad idea on every level.
No taxpayers should not bail out the indebted.
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Re: Student loan debt
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12/19/20 08:56 PM
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No reasoning or ethics intended to appeal to idiots.
Promise free stuff for everyone then raise my taxes
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Re: Student loan debt
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12/19/20 09:04 PM
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SniperB, the biggest problem is they give 18 year old kids Maybe it's time to stop acting like 18 year olds are kids? Why should I pay for their mistakes? We can accept the system did them no favors while acknowledging they need to pay for their own mistakes. Govt needs to get out of indoctrination errr education business almost entirely. We should lower the interest rates on the loans but that is it, something around 1% would cover administration cost and the cost to borrow the money from the Fed. The amount of anger I will have if my peers get their loans forgiven will be massive.
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Re: Student loan debt
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12/19/20 09:07 PM
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Take out a loan, pay it back, simple. How in the (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) would allow us pay for their debt?
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Re: Student loan debt
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In the 1960's and 1970's we decided that everyone should go to college. The federal government started insuring bank issued student loans to make sure everyone could afford college. With all the new money available for college two things happened. Colleges found a way to let everyone in and colleges started raising tuition by double digits every year. After all, it was "free money.
If you graduated college in the 1950's you were a "college man" and it meant something. Only the best and brightest could get into college. If you graduate college today, it means almost nothing. Free money for college just made college less rigorous and made a college degree less valuable.
Today, 62% of students who start college graduate and 27% of college graduates work in their field of study. .62 x .27 = .16 Only 16% of college students work in their field of study. That means to me that 84% of high school kids who start college should have done something else instead. Making college more accessible isn't solving a problem.
-Ryan
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