All of my #3 Bridger's and K.O. Extremes are 4 coiled offsets with outside lams. They work very well for me in my situation. I have no intentions of taking any of the springs off, I guess I'm a member of the big trap club. 99% of the coyotes I catch have no more than a crease across their foot. That being said we don't have fox where I trap. They make different combinations because of different preferences. To each their own.

Their is another reason for WHY super powerful traps = Other western states have 48 and 72 hour check laws .The #3 and #4 size 4 coiled traps catch higher up the foot, so less chance of a pull out over long times. I have 200 MB-550s . I use them year round .BUT if i was going to Montana, Wyoming , or Nevada I would buy some No BS Extreme's for extended checks

LDW = I dont own a single K O Extreme BUT I have set 3 dz of them in West Texas with a friend. I personally liked them. Woundnt use them in a South Texas or Alabama high fence with 20000 dollar deer running around , but would use them out west. They are a well made trap AND I like the way the pan sits below the jaw

I used some laminated 4 coiled #2s this year. They did not do any more damage to coon or Fisher than a 2 coil 1.75...I can see why people want them in winter conditions. Frozen is frozen? Not really. Many times it's just a crust that a more powerful trap can break better. But I sure don't want a trap capable of holding deer, I'd be catching them daily in the fall.

I can tell you from experience, 2 coiled mb550s have no problem holding a coyote on a 4 day check

Bob , thats good to know, but which will hold the most % of coyotes on a 4 day check = a Mb-550 OS or a # 3 sized 4 coil trap?

Well, so far the 550 has held 100% over the past ten years, not sure it gets much better than that.

That’s good to know Bob I just opened a brand new dozen . I’m about go out and wash the oil off and put wolf fangs on them and see if they will hold one for 24 hours , lol !

By the way in my opinion the four coiled traps have nothing to do with holding power, it’s about helping them get up out of stiff winter dirt. Holding power is all about the off set and the lock up !

I catch red fox with mb 650 offset cast jaw traps and the leg has definitely never been gone. Also caught fisher,coon,my black lab, and my pinky finger. Not one had any serious damage. Powerfull traps are what you need when you run in freeze thaw conditions and rhe critters are now worse for wear.

No worse for wear* lol

I use inside laminated 650s and they are rough on feet. Even coyotes. I would like to try the cast jaw model but unfortunately they are barely over the legal jaw spread limit here.

They are a nice solid trap for sure. Only thing I dont like is I can't fit my fingers under the jaw to set the pan in the nightlatched position. I have fat stubby fingers lol.

As stated before I’m a Jake guy. In my opinion one of the most powerful and well built traps for its size on the market. I have handled a KO and it’s a well built trap too. I like the Jake for the way it comes through our heavy Kansas dirt. When making flat sets on two tracks where the ground is literally rock hard my go to trap is a MB 550 two coiled. Simply because it takes half the real estate to dig the trap bed. I have not had a single issue with them holding a coyote. I don’t bed them near as deep as the Jake and use bone dry dirt when setting them so as far as holding power goes I see no difference.

Ive had several different makes and models of traps snap on my hand and the lead in of this thread " super powerful traps" is kind of being a little dramatic in my opinion. Use what you like and don't worry what someone else likes as long as its legal.

I use 4 coiled Bridger 3's mainly for canine trapping. I have them outside laminated. For coyotes they work well and are a bit much for fox but still work. A size 2 four coil would work well for both IMO . The number 3 just give you a little more catch area.

That is the beauty of coils. I can pull the booster coils in less than a minute depending on the situation.

At one time there were vids on here of a guy holding his body weight up by a trap, with NO springs. And the screwdriver test. They were pretty telling about lock up and design.

I searched for that post, and got lost in cyberland lol.

set your pan tension right and never have a problem with toe catches

From what I’ve seen, 4-coils on Bridger #3 cut the foot. They cut cover but also cut into the foot. These traps were not offset and the trapper was excellent at catching them. Along with that, the jaw edges had flat vertical faces but the angles at the top and bottom of the jaws were 90 degrees. I don’t know if this is the case with a rounded edge trap jaw in 4-coil design.

This why i use round stock to laminate my traps. Coyotes or cats I have caught dont remember any of they having cut feet. Fox are a different story the trap grabs them a little high causing damage.