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Re: Losing America [Re: Sprung & Rusty] #7118563
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What the left is attempting to do is box freedom loving, patriotic Americans into a corner and rob them of their voice and means of resistance at the same time. There is nothing they won't do to achieve their aims. We're sovereign human beings and we should act like it. Consent of the governed...remember?

Re: Losing America [Re: Sprung & Rusty] #7118571
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Re: Losing America [Re: MJM] #7118577
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Originally Posted by MJM
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I see the results but had no way to post them.The fraud was crazy and into 100,000's of votes switched or eliminated in some states.Millions of Trump votes over the total election eliminated.


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Re: Losing America [Re: Sprung & Rusty] #7118592
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Boco. You are right about change. But giving up our freedoms in the USA is going to be a tough one for a lot of us to swallow. Maybe the young ones that a driving this need to earn there way. Rather then given a hand out every time they fall on hard times. Or make a mistake. Trump made a clear path for all. Small government. Low tax’s. Hard work pays off. If Trump doesn’t get in. We will go back to big government. High tax’s. Control the banks lending money. And we will be programmed to death with more tax’s for more program’s

Re: Losing America [Re: Sprung & Rusty] #7118603
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Speaking of changes:
Georgia has a million new voters since 2016.
Coal is on its way out due to cheap natural gas, wind and solar.
Trump will be escorted out on Ja. 20 if he refuses to leave.
America got rid of kings in 1776 and 2020.

Re: Losing America [Re: aknome] #7118632
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Originally Posted by aknome
Speaking of changes:
Georgia has a million new voters since 2016.
Coal is on its way out due to cheap natural gas, wind and solar.
Trump will be escorted out on Ja. 20 if he refuses to leave.

A million new illegals? I'm surprised you guys limited yourself in that way. I have no plans on giving up coal, it's the best heat there is, and as far as Trump leaving office...I guess that depends on who is asking him to leave.

Re: Losing America [Re: rvsask] #7118635
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Misery loves company. Is that why Canadians want to bring this country down. You would fix there s—- hole country rather than bring ours to there level

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Re: Losing America [Re: Flipper] #7118664
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Originally Posted by Flipper
Misery loves company. Is that why Canadians want to bring this country down. You would fix there s—- hole country rather than bring ours to there level


While I dont agree with his assesment, I’m pretty sure Nome Ak is in the United States and not Canada.

Re: Losing America [Re: Sprung & Rusty] #7118683
01/03/21 04:14 PM
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That's okay, gnome is just a misanthrope and why he fled to such desolate regions.


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Re: Losing America [Re: Sprung & Rusty] #7118693
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Originally Posted by Sprung & Rusty
We are losing, and even here on T-man we fight amongst each other instead of fighting who we should be fighting.


Thats because the ones who fight with the majority on here are the enemy. If you voted for one single liberal in 2020, you should turn your guns, traps, nads ect into the government.

Re: Losing America [Re: Posco] #7118699
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Originally Posted by Posco
Originally Posted by aknome
Speaking of changes:
Georgia has a million new voters since 2016.
Coal is on its way out due to cheap natural gas, wind and solar.
Trump will be escorted out on Ja. 20 if he refuses to leave.

A million new illegals? I'm surprised you guys limited yourself in that way. I have no plans on giving up coal, it's the best heat there is, and as far as Trump leaving office...I guess that depends on who is asking him to leave.


From CNN: Georgia ranked as the top fifth state to welcome the most newcomers in 2019, according to a US Census Bureau report. More than 50,000 people came from abroad, while thousands relocated from other states, including Florida, Texas, California and New York.
Coal may be your choice, but it's no longer the choice for utility companies.

Re: Losing America [Re: warrior] #7118722
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Originally Posted by warrior
That's okay, gnome is just a misanthrope and why he fled to such desolate regions.


You're correct; I'm allergic to stupid people. But unfortunately, there are some everywhere.

Re: Losing America [Re: aknome] #7118738
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Originally Posted by aknome
Originally Posted by warrior
That's okay, gnome is just a misanthrope and why he fled to such desolate regions.


You're correct; I'm allergic to stupid people. But unfortunately, there are some everywhere.

Yep liberals everywhere


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Re: Losing America [Re: Sprung & Rusty] #7118755
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Are you suggesting the US Census Bureau is wrong?

Re: Losing America [Re: Sprung & Rusty] #7118793
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Trying reading my post again. 2019 is the key number in that paragraph.

https://www.census.gov/programs-sur...ation/research/evaluation-estimates.html

Re: Losing America [Re: aknome] #7118797
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Originally Posted by aknome

Coal may be your choice, but it's no longer the choice for utility companies.


Only because of regulations.

My electric provider still uses a large chunk of coal for their generation our power is cheap compared to many others


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Re: Losing America [Re: DWC] #7118817
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Originally Posted by DWC
Originally Posted by Sprung & Rusty
We are losing, and even here on T-man we fight amongst each other instead of fighting who we should be fighting.


Thats because the ones who fight with the majority on here are the enemy. If you voted for one single liberal in 2020, you should turn your guns, traps, nads ect into the government.


Agreed. The lines used to be blurred to some degree. Not anymore.


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Re: Losing America [Re: Sprung & Rusty] #7118822
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Regulations have certainly has an impact on coal mining but the economics of energy have had even more effect on decreasing coal use.
In 2019 Renewable energy surpassed coal for the first time in 130 years.

Here's some guesses from the US Energy Information Administration. https://www.eia.gov

The U.S. Energy Information Administration estimates in the Annual Energy Outlook 2020 that as of January 1, 2018, there were about 2,828.8 trillion cubic feet (Tcf) of technically recoverable resources (TRR) of dry natural gas in the United States. Assuming the same annual rate of U.S. dry natural gas production in 2018 of about 30.6 Tcf, the United States has enough dry natural gas to last about 92 years. The actual number of years the TRR will last depends on the actual amount of dry natural gas produced and on changes in natural gas TRR in future years.

The amount of coal that exists in the United States is difficult to estimate because it is buried underground. In 1975, the U.S. Geological Survey (USGS) published the most comprehensive national assessment of U.S. coal resources, which indicated that as of January 1, 1974, coal resources in the United States totaled 4 trillion short tons. Although the USGS has conducted more recent regional assessments of U.S. coal resources, a new national-level assessment of U.S. coal resources has not been conducted.

The U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA) publishes three measures of how much coal is left in the United States. The measures are based on various degrees of geologic certainty and on the economic feasibility of mining the coal.

EIA's estimates for the amount of coal reserves as of January 1, 2020, by type of reserve
Demonstrated Reserve Base (DRB) is the sum of coal in both measured and indicated resource categories of reliability. The DRB represents 100% of the in-place coal that could be mined commercially at a given time. EIA estimates the DRB at about 473 billion short tons, of which about 69% is underground mineable coal.
Estimated recoverable reserves include only the coal that can be mined with today's mining technology after considering accessibility constraints and recovery factors. EIA estimates U.S. recoverable coal reserves at about 252 billion short tons, of which about 58% is underground mineable coal.
Recoverable reserves at producing mines are the amount of recoverable reserves that coal mining companies report to EIA for their U.S. coal mines that produced more than 25,000 short tons of coal in a year. EIA estimates these reserves at about 14 billion short tons of recoverable reserves, of which 60% is surface mineable coal.
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Based on U.S. coal production in 2019, of about 0.706 billion short tons, the recoverable coal reserves would last about 357 years, and recoverable reserves at producing mines would last about 20 years. The actual number of years that those reserves will last depends on changes in production and reserves estimates.

Re: Losing America [Re: aknome] #7118827
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Originally Posted by aknome
Speaking of changes:
Georgia has a million new voters since 2016.
Coal is on its way out due to cheap natural gas, wind and solar.
Trump will be escorted out on Ja. 20 if he refuses to leave.
America got rid of kings in 1776 and 2020.

How did Georgia become germane to the conversation and I gave you too much credit...what makes you think they're liberal voters?

Re: Losing America [Re: Sprung & Rusty] #7118843
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Before I retired, I worked in the coal industry for 37 years. The last 12 years of my career I was general manager of a company that mined over 5 million tons of both thermal and metallurgical coal a year. I do understand the coal industry.

In Pennsylvania, coal fired generating stations have been replaced by those fired by natural gas. Because gas is cheap. The northeastern US is home to some of the world’s richest natural gas beds, the Marcellus and Utica reserves. It sells at a ridiculously low price here because we are at ground zero for production.

Folks in the coal business saw the demise of coal for power generation when the drilling started in the early 2000’s, long before Obama’s war on coal.

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