Re: How many ATV trappers out there?
[Re: Davexx1]
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10/16/21 01:09 PM
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Boco
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I am 71 and have thought about buying a side by side/UTV because after climbing on/off my ATVs during a long day of trap work makes my hips hurt. It is the lifting and throwing your leg over the seat to mount and lifting the leg, pivoting your hips to dismount numerous times each day that seems to work and hurt my hips. It looks like a side by side would be much easier and more comfortable to ride/drive but I am wondering if the side by side/UTVs has the brute pulling power of the geared manual transmission Yamaha 4WD ATVs. I think all of the side by side/UTV transmissions of Honda, Polaris, etc. are driven with a fan belt. I can't believe that would be as strong, durable, and/or as powerful as a geared transmission drive line. The side by side/UTVs are wider, probably heavier and more stable, but they don't look like they have alot of ground clearance which may/would limit its usability where I trap and hunt. I have not owned a sxs but in my estimation,with the longer wheelbase,in the rough country cut trails I sometimes navigate, I would be hung up/high centerd in a lot of places. Not to mention I would have to cut a lot of my trails wider to accommodate a sxs. Some guys here used the 6x6 bikes and swore by them for trapping.
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Re: How many ATV trappers out there?
[Re: Boco]
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10/17/21 12:11 PM
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scotiantrapper
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I am 71 and have thought about buying a side by side/UTV because after climbing on/off my ATVs during a long day of trap work makes my hips hurt. It is the lifting and throwing your leg over the seat to mount and lifting the leg, pivoting your hips to dismount numerous times each day that seems to work and hurt my hips. It looks like a side by side would be much easier and more comfortable to ride/drive but I am wondering if the side by side/UTVs has the brute pulling power of the geared manual transmission Yamaha 4WD ATVs. I think all of the side by side/UTV transmissions of Honda, Polaris, etc. are driven with a fan belt. I can't believe that would be as strong, durable, and/or as powerful as a geared transmission drive line. The side by side/UTVs are wider, probably heavier and more stable, but they don't look like they have alot of ground clearance which may/would limit its usability where I trap and hunt. I have not owned a sxs but in my estimation,with the longer wheelbase,in the rough country cut trails I sometimes navigate, I would be hung up/high centerd in a lot of places. Not to mention I would have to cut a lot of my trails wider to accommodate a sxs. Some guys here used the 6x6 bikes and swore by them for trapping. I agree Boco, back in the mountains my side by side just cannot get back into the coyote and cat territory. Always hung up or spend half the day crawling through spots you would just zip through on a wheeler, I've since gone back to a wheeler. Trapping in farmland, the side by side cannot be beat though. I'll be putting a new canam 570 to the test this year.
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Re: How many ATV trappers out there?
[Re: Gray Breard]
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10/18/21 10:43 AM
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powderfinger
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Hern, are those whistle pigs ?? I just use my .220 Swift on them I use the 22-250. Instant light out.
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Re: How many ATV trappers out there?
[Re: Davexx1]
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10/22/21 09:11 AM
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paloduro
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I am 71 and have thought about buying a side by side/UTV because after climbing on/off my ATVs during a long day of trap work makes my hips hurt. It is the lifting and throwing your leg over the seat to mount and lifting the leg, pivoting your hips to dismount numerous times each day that seems to work and hurt my hips. It looks like a side by side would be much easier and more comfortable to ride/drive but I am wondering if the side by side/UTVs has the brute pulling power of the geared manual transmission Yamaha 4WD ATVs. I think all of the side by side/UTV transmissions of Honda, Polaris, etc. are driven with a fan belt. I can't believe that would be as strong, durable, and/or as powerful as a geared transmission drive line. The side by side/UTVs are wider, probably heavier and more stable, but they don't look like they have alot of ground clearance which may/would limit its usability where I trap and hunt. Honda Pioneer is shaft driven.
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Re: How many ATV trappers out there?
[Re: Gray Breard]
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10/29/21 10:48 PM
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Willy Firewood
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The first atv I used for trapping was a Honda Big Red 250 3 wheeler. It saved time over walking long distances. Shaft drive, reverse, and super low 1st gear. Ran like new - sold it a year ago. Later a 1991 Honda 300 4x4. Big improvement. Still runs and looks great! Shaft drive! Then a Yamaha 350 4x4. Big improvement. Still runs great! Later a Mule 4x4 sxs. Huge Improvement! (It is for sale in the Trap Shed.) This year a Honda Pioneer 1000 SE. 6 peed automatic and manual transmission. One, two locked, and 3 or 4 wheel locked. Speed, power, and luxury! Shaft drive!
QBD - That bed and other mods are GREAT! What size?
FRAC LIVES MATTER
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Re: How many ATV trappers out there?
[Re: Gray Breard]
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10/30/21 11:30 AM
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QuietButDeadly
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My Pioneer is a 700 with one seat. The windshield and roof are aftermarket accessories. All of the bed and rack mods are custom fabricated.
Life Member: NCTA, VTA, NTA, TTFHA, MFTI Member: FTA
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Re: How many ATV trappers out there?
[Re: Gray Breard]
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10/30/21 12:25 PM
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illinideer
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I use a 2001 AC 250 J
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Re: How many ATV trappers out there?
[Re: Gray Breard]
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10/30/21 01:16 PM
10/30/21 01:16 PM
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Willy Firewood
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Fiske - your machine looks wicked good! Did you notice much power loss when you added the tracks? It looks unstoppable! Did fuel use change with the tracks?
Boco - as always, I am impressed by the efficiency and great design of your rigs. The canoe rack is fantastic. I have one for our Honda that is not as nice as yours. A guy in Maine was making them long ago. It is comprised of 3 modular sections so it can be easily removed to hang on the wall. A front vertical section and rear vertical section that slip into receiver bases mounted on the front and rear racks. Then pins go through to hold the sections in place. The top horizontal section slips over sections on the front and rear. 4 bolts secure everything. I added some gussets and widened the top rack.
Maybe you guys who are ATV, UTV, SXS minded may know of sources for some accessories? I am willing to go custom if I cannot find accessories are not suitable for my specific serious use.
I would like to find: A headache rack made securely enough to mount 2 Kolpin gun boots alternated crosswise that would not prevent the bed from dumping. A rack to span the full length of the machine with upright supports between the cab and bed. A cap for the bed similar to a truck bed cap to keep tools dry - it will be used for work too. Or a replacement tool / work bed. Or a box and rack to mount in the bed to create a second level.
How is a person supposed to attach anything to that plastic bed? My Mule has a steel bed with a solid frame.
A guy above is using a Rancher or Foreman. I always wanted one of those extra rugged machines!
This SxS came from the factory with all of the accessories installed - front bumper / brush guard, windshield, top, winch, auxiliary fused switch panel, LED lighting, panoramic rear view mirror, Maxis radial tires, all 4 A arm skid plates, complete underbelly skid plates, and high performance tunable Fox suspension.
On these rigs I attach a hitch carrier as a “stink rack” for odiferous animals.
Best wishes!
FRAC LIVES MATTER
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Re: How many ATV trappers out there?
[Re: Gray Breard]
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10/30/21 03:04 PM
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QuietButDeadly
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Willy, my search for accessories for my Pioneer did not turn up much in the way of racks and nothing to replace that worthless hollow plastic bed. That is why all my mods are custom. Not inexpensive but now I have a very functional machine for land or water trapping. And everything maintained the serviceability of the machine. The bed still dumps as well. My drowning rod rack does block the passenger side door when hauling rods but the entire rod carrying system is removable when not needed. I have some in process pics I have not posted of the bed mods if you are interested in seeing them.
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Re: How many ATV trappers out there?
[Re: Gray Breard]
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10/30/21 03:30 PM
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the Blak Spot
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98 big bear 350 (paid $300 for it)
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