Re: An alert: Oregon Trappers
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01/02/21 07:21 PM
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I think part of the reason that Deb Haaland was chosen is that it furthers Biden's campaign pledge of a diverse cabinet. Since she is native American that fills one ethnicity spot for them.
Her record as having supported anti-trapping efforts in the past is very troubling. But we're not sitting on our laurels here. We have things we are working on. Deb still has to do things according to law and major decisions that affect federal lands is up to congress. As you point out, we need to root for success in Georgia.
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Re: An alert: Oregon Trappers
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01/06/21 12:54 AM
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Good points all Torch. We have some national forest lands that have been off limits to trapping beaver for as long as I've been a beaver trapper..((a very long time). You would think they would b crawling with beaver by now. Not the case. It all comes down to habitat and if you don't have new seccessional vegetative growth in the riparian zones, proper stream gradients, etc. you don't have beaver habitat.
Good habitat not only tolerates (beaver) harvest but is helped in long-term population stability by reduction of overcrowding and the potential for disease and fighting mortality.
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Re: An alert: Oregon Trappers
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01/12/21 05:56 PM
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Our good friend and Oregon legislative watchdog Stan Steele sent an email today informing of us of three 'red flag' house bills to be considered in our next legislative session.
HB 2676 (Rep. Nosse District 42 Portland) Prohibits sale, offer for sale, display for sale, trade or the distribution for consideration of fur product in state of Oregon. Class A misdemeanor-$6250 fine -364 days of imprisonment or both.
HB 2843 (Rep. Marsh district 5 Jackson county) Prohibits taking of beavers on federally managed land, in waters of this state as waters flow through federally managed public land or in pond, lake, or water storage facility on federally managed land.
HB 2844 (Rep. Marsh and Sen. Gorsek) Removes beavers from "Predatory Animal and Rodent" classifications from Wildlife Damage Statutes and Administrative Rules. Restricts removal of damage causing beaver on federally managed public lands with few exceptions and removal can only be accomplished by federal personnel. Instructs Oregon Dept of Fish and Wildlife to publish annual report related to taking beavers and make report available to public. ODFW rules must be made on or before Dec. 31, 2022.
Guys..time to step it up is imminent. Good grief!
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Re: An alert: Oregon Trappers
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01/16/21 09:13 AM
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Her record as having supported anti-trapping efforts in the past is very troubling. But we're not sitting on our laurels here. We have things we are working on. Deb still has to do things according to law and major decisions that affect federal lands is up to congress. .
Carl weren't you paying attention in the past. There are many things the president and their minions can do outside of congress to effect the use of BLM lands. Good luck in your fight to keep what you have and keep up the fight and your good works.
"Inflation is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon". Milton Friedman.
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Re: An alert: Oregon Trappers
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01/18/21 01:31 AM
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Personally, I'm not overly concerned with that. States have been largely granted jurisdiction over hunting and fishing regs on federal lands.
Under various statues, federal agencies are required to cooperate, consult, or coordinate with states in ways that stop short of full delegation but basically stay out of the local decision making except for migratory bird regs and the endangered species act.
Point being, Deb Haaland will not be able to change current protocol without congressional approval...IMHO.
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Re: An alert: Oregon Trappers
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01/24/21 08:17 PM
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Gonna email Stan right after I post this. We need to fight to protect each other's rights. Was raised in Oregon and will still fight to protect those RIGHTS. Thanks for posting and keeping us all in the loop.
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Re: An alert: Oregon Trappers
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Good for you. Really appreciate it!
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Re: An alert: Oregon Trappers
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Carl has there been any help from FTA, NTA, Sportsman Alliance or any other groups on this issue?
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Re: An alert: Oregon Trappers
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Let me get back to you on that.
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Re: An alert: Oregon Trappers
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I know that Stan feels we are getting good support form the Sportsman Alliance.
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Re: An alert: Oregon Trappers
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Carl has there been any help from FTA, NTA, Sportsman Alliance or any other groups on this issue? I just had a lengthy conversation with Stan and he had glowing reports of dealings with all three organizations. They are really stepping up. But to be successful we need to all stand up, do our parts and support these fine organizations. The amount of money they have to put into the fight pales in comparison to what the antis have. And even if you think you live in a state where the antis will have trouble making inroads, think again. They will be after all of us so the time is here to support your state's trapping organization and the FTA and NTA as well.
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Re: An alert: Oregon Trappers
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02/02/21 02:01 PM
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BP sorry to hear that they are trying to ban beaver trapping in your state. However I just read a article online that really has me worried for the future of your great state! Passage of the Measure 110 decriminalizes the possession of ALL illegal drugs in Oregon. Under this law those in possession will be fined a $100 citation that will be dropped if they agree to a health assessment!!!! WHAT is this world coming to? Sorry for getting off subject but I couldn't help but throw this info out there!!!!!!!
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