Re: MUSKRAT WIRE STRETCHER VS. WOOD STRETCHER
[Re: The Beav]
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01/12/21 03:00 PM
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tlguy
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How do you sleeve a push up?
Well you cut a hole through the ice and then with a shoulder length glove you punch a hole Into the push up entering It below the water line. Place the trap In the void and then plug the hole. Don't try and find the entrance It's a waste of time.
I'm just saying we can legally trap In the push up. I didn't say It was very effective. So we can punch a hole from the bottom of the pushup but not the top? Where was that in the regs?
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Re: MUSKRAT WIRE STRETCHER VS. WOOD STRETCHER
[Re: GFW - GROENEWOLD]
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01/12/21 03:26 PM
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They don't tell you what you can do In the regs they only tell you what you can't do.
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Re: MUSKRAT WIRE STRETCHER VS. WOOD STRETCHER
[Re: GFW - GROENEWOLD]
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01/12/21 04:26 PM
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If you know what a binder clip is I suggest you pick them up for wire. 1/4 clip(office supply company’s will have them) and use them on the sides. Pull down the skirt clip both sides and gently pull down the tail and hook on. The binder clips hold a bigger portion of the skirt and THEY DO NOT MOVE ON THE WIRE Do the binder clips leave a pretty deep imprint on the dried leather? I suppose if it doesn't tear the leather, its all good!
"And God said, Let us make man in our image �and let them have dominion �and all the creatures that move along the ground". Genesis 1:26
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Re: MUSKRAT WIRE STRETCHER VS. WOOD STRETCHER
[Re: GFW - GROENEWOLD]
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01/12/21 11:41 PM
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Is it because WI has far more people than say SD, and thus, more trappers, that the state agency people don't want you trapping inside huts...? Do they think that your mrat population will be negatively affected and because you all seem to have more permanent marshes and swamps than say us, where much of our wetlands "flux" a lot, so rat pops swing up and down, and "aggressive" trapping techniques may really hammer the numbers to a sustained decline? Or is it some sort of "fair chase' culture where busting open a hut in the winter and even with proper plugging it, that's not considered "sporting" and so they ban it? Or is there just peta-hugger mission creep and the state will "allow" you to mrat trap in the winter but they really don't want to be too successful. Or some sort of combo of the above...? Truly curious watching from the sidelines...
"And God said, Let us make man in our image �and let them have dominion �and all the creatures that move along the ground". Genesis 1:26
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Re: MUSKRAT WIRE STRETCHER VS. WOOD STRETCHER
[Re: The Beav]
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01/12/21 11:57 PM
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I'm just saying we can legally trap In the push up. I didn't say It was very effective .
I know of a Wisconsin feller or two who will disagree with this statement!
"Inflation is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon". Milton Friedman.
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Re: MUSKRAT WIRE STRETCHER VS. WOOD STRETCHER
[Re: NonPCfed]
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01/13/21 07:43 AM
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Is it because WI has far more people than say SD, and thus, more trappers, that the state agency people don't want you trapping inside huts...? Do they think that your mrat population will be negatively affected and because you all seem to have more permanent marshes and swamps than say us, where much of our wetlands "flux" a lot, so rat pops swing up and down, and "aggressive" trapping techniques may really hammer the numbers to a sustained decline? Or is it some sort of "fair chase' culture where busting open a hut in the winter and even with proper plugging it, that's not considered "sporting" and so they ban it? Or is there just peta-hugger mission creep and the state will "allow" you to mrat trap in the winter but they really don't want to be too successful. Or some sort of combo of the above...? Truly curious watching from the sidelines... Wisconsin’s traditionally has a conservative game management style. It is a reflection of our former furbearer biologists attitude. Caution of unknowns and not quite understood. Which is fair. I suppose the hut busting was discounted under fair chase. Muskrats have been one that we feel compelled to protect, because they are so “ easy” to catch. We tend to think trappers and “aggressive “ methods will damage populations. Where in fact this is to the contrary. Once again the rat population outsmarts the trapper. Humans do negatively impact muskrat populations, just not trappers. NPC your narrow mindedness is a sign of naivety.
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Re: MUSKRAT WIRE STRETCHER VS. WOOD STRETCHER
[Re: Steven 49er]
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01/13/21 10:30 AM
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I'm just saying we can legally trap In the push up. I didn't say It was very effective .
I know of a Wisconsin feller or two who will disagree with this statement! Well 49er If you have 40 huts In the marsh and 3 push ups it's not all that effective.
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Re: MUSKRAT WIRE STRETCHER VS. WOOD STRETCHER
[Re: skratmandoo]
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01/13/21 10:35 AM
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Yup thats how I do it, and if you arent chiseling ice by plunge hole, you could be trying to chisel thru a foot of ice. And to get back on subject, wood for me, and Ive sold groeny rats that have been in deep freeze, stretched, that were two years old. He didnt have a problem with em... Well The times I have sleeved push ups there Is about 2" of Ice and using the cordless drill and my 6" auger makes short work out of drilling holes no chopping holes for me.
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Re: MUSKRAT WIRE STRETCHER VS. WOOD STRETCHER
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01/13/21 10:49 AM
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Gary, are you sure every rat in the marsh isn't using those 3 pushups?
Don't get me wrong, I've never sleeved a house in my life but I also don't think like the conventional hut buster. When the time is right I will start sleeving to a degree.
NPC, you will find that very very few states allow molestation of the house in the winter.
"Inflation is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon". Milton Friedman.
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Re: MUSKRAT WIRE STRETCHER VS. WOOD STRETCHER
[Re: GFW - GROENEWOLD]
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01/13/21 12:32 PM
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In this marsh all the huts are tucked back I the Tails. So In my way of thinking there Is no need to build a push up. The rat leaves the hut dives down to the cattail root system cuts it's lunch and heads back to the hut.
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