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Re: New Military Recruits [Re: Jtrapper] #7146395
01/20/21 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Jtrapper
Too many poor kids in the country, military is the only way out for alot of them.

Good point.


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Re: New Military Recruits [Re: Hatchetman] #7146408
01/20/21 01:56 PM
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We had several jar heads In my outfit that the judge gave them their choice, Jail or the military.


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Re: New Military Recruits [Re: Hatchetman] #7146410
01/20/21 01:57 PM
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Under Trump the National Guard was majority white men. They couldn't even be trusted for inauguration duty without being vetted..

Under Biden, who knows? Maybe there will be a shift to "pronouns of color"??


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Re: New Military Recruits [Re: Hatchetman] #7146466
01/20/21 02:27 PM
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I can just imagine what they would look like.


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Re: New Military Recruits [Re: Hatchetman] #7146483
01/20/21 02:40 PM
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New camo uniform will be black and gray flowers.


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Re: New Military Recruits [Re: T-Rex] #7146542
01/20/21 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by T-Rex
New camo uniform will be black and gray flowers.


Typo? . . . you added an "r".
grin


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Re: New Military Recruits [Re: Hatchetman] #7146629
01/20/21 04:35 PM
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I don’t think there will be any problems finding new recruits for Biden and the Democrats troop build ups in the Middle East.

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Re: New Military Recruits [Re: Hatchetman] #7146810
01/20/21 06:42 PM
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Under Biden they will probably pay for a kids whole collage if they join.

Re: New Military Recruits [Re: forestman3] #7146827
01/20/21 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by forestman3
Under Biden they will probably pay for a kids whole collage if they join.


Under the G.I. Bill , it's there, full or partial depending on your status.


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Re: New Military Recruits [Re: Jtrapper] #7147099
01/20/21 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Jtrapper
Too many poor kids in the country, military is the only way out for alot of them.

Didn’t realize you had to be poor to join the military...guess being an American and felling it was your responsibility to serve was the wrong choice a country middle class boy.

Re: New Military Recruits [Re: Wanna Be] #7147292
01/20/21 11:22 PM
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I have been criticized by several on this forum for believing that a draft of some type, military, Americore, Conservation camp etc. etc. would be a good thing for us at it would bring some order, discipline, training etc. to all. As with the draft in the past there would be obvious ways to circumvent etc. but to me it would still be a better choice for government spending then assistance, etc.

Bryce

Re: New Military Recruits [Re: bblwi] #7147316
01/20/21 11:31 PM
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Originally Posted by bblwi
I have been criticized by several on this forum for believing that a draft of some type, military, Americore, Conservation camp etc. etc. would be a good thing for us at it would bring some order, discipline, training etc. to all. As with the draft in the past there would be obvious ways to circumvent etc. but to me it would still be a better choice for government spending then assistance, etc. Bryce


Bryce, when you’re criticized, if it's not true, disregard it. If it's unfair, don’t let it irritate you. If it's ignorant, smile, but if it's justified, learn from it. :-)


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Re: New Military Recruits [Re: bblwi] #7147326
01/20/21 11:37 PM
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Originally Posted by bblwi
I have been criticized by several on this forum for believing that a draft of some type, military, Americore, Conservation camp etc. etc. would be a good thing for us at it would bring some order, discipline, training etc. to all. As with the draft in the past there would be obvious ways to circumvent etc. but to me it would still be a better choice for government spending then assistance, etc.

Bryce


We already have the draft: Public school. After 13 years of public schooling you think more public schooling will help us?


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Re: New Military Recruits [Re: Hatchetman] #7147335
01/20/21 11:40 PM
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They're gonna start a war pretty soon somewhere, gotta funnel their buddies the defense contracts they promised. And Joe is saying he wants to have females required to apply for a draft. Not good. But hey, ya'll wanted that "equal opportunity". If I was still in, I'd be jumping ship. Not a good time to be enlisted, that's for sure.


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Re: New Military Recruits [Re: USMCArty] #7147341
01/20/21 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by USMCArty
They're gonna start a war pretty soon somewhere, gotta funnel their buddies the defense contracts they promised. And Joe is saying he wants to have females required to apply for a draft. Not good. But hey, ya'll wanted that "equal opportunity". If I was still in, I'd be jumping ship. Not a good time to be enlisted, that's for sure.


Many countries have women in the military ranks. Old saying "the female of the species is always the most vicious."


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Re: New Military Recruits [Re: The Beav] #7147346
01/20/21 11:46 PM
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Originally Posted by The Beav
We had several jar heads In my outfit that the judge gave them their choice, Jail or the military.

So you chose the military?


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Re: New Military Recruits [Re: beaverpeeler] #7147474
01/21/21 02:03 AM
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I think it would at 18 the parents would be out of the picture as to their graduating versus actually learning something.

Bryce

Re: New Military Recruits [Re: Hatchetman] #7147505
01/21/21 03:39 AM
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Most US Military members are white men, mostly from middle and upper middle class households. Surprisingly more children from very wealthy households enlist than children from the very poorest households.

https://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/demographics-us-military

Black people and women are very under represented in the US military.

It's a myth that most US soldiers are poor and uneducated. They are mostly true patriots.

Keith

Re: New Military Recruits [Re: Hatchetman] #7147510
01/21/21 04:17 AM
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Perhaps some instruction on Article 90 of the UCMJ about following LAWFUL orders and a refresher on the first line of their oath to "support and defend the Constitution of the United States" wouldn't be a bad idea... And a reminder that "I was just following orders" has been an unsuccessful defense during tribunals.

That's the vetting I want to see.

Mike


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Re: New Military Recruits [Re: Hatchetman] #7147540
01/21/21 06:38 AM
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My son joined the Navy. He didn't really care which party was in the White House. And no, we weren't poor. And no, he'd never even talked to a judge.

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