Re: Farmers work is never done!
[Re: Swamp Wolf]
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01/27/21 06:30 PM
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Several different programs listed under the ag assistance program including product subsidies, disaster payments, and conservation payments. In 25 years, approx 1/3 of Ga farmers received payments. Nearly 10 billion $$.
It is the gubernment "fixin" a problem they created. While anyone producing a commodity should have access to the open market, embargos, tarifs (pre- Trump), and political whims shut down some of the best markets for any of us to export those goods.
This sword cuts both ways- maybe if we could sell to anybody countries like Australia would not have ramped up beef production (for McDonalds) and Argentina would have stayed out of row crops. These things an a lot others have taken a big toll on grain, meat, and fur prices).
Russia prolly wont make near as many AK47s since we cannot import them dropping the price per unit and upping supply that make them even more plentiful for the cartels like the one that killed Kiki Cameron or the Border Patrol agents shot buy guns provided by Obama and Holder.
Seeing a pattern yet?
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Re: Farmers work is never done!
[Re: Swamp Wolf]
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01/27/21 06:32 PM
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Nate, Dont look up how much each US farmer gets annually in government subsidies. ...hint: search agricultural subsidies.... Each farmer and how much he/she received is listed by state...county.. Here ya go: https://farm.ewg.org/None Here
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Re: Farmers work is never done!
[Re: Michigander]
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01/27/21 06:32 PM
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Don't complain with your mouth full !!!!! I raise my own,so thanks but know thanks. I wish our farmers were lazier. With these mild winters they are waging war on anything made of wood. Grown up fencerows, wooded ditches, woodlots and old barns are all being wiped out. Have to keep the grassy ditch banks mowed like a golf course too. Tax write off. And big equipment know manual labor.
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Re: Farmers work is never done!
[Re: nate]
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01/27/21 06:39 PM
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I said in my first post not sl farmer's dairy and beef farmer's put in there share of manual labor.
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Re: Farmers work is never done!
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01/27/21 06:51 PM
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I agree that this country couldnt survive without food grown by our farmers but goodness some farmers get propped up by the government........to the tune of millions of dollars. And it just isnt the big farmers.
No need for any of those farmers to complain about welfare and other forms of government assistance to others.
That would be the kettle calling the pot black!!!!!
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Re: Farmers work is never done!
[Re: nate]
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01/27/21 06:52 PM
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Yeah cause they never do,it unless they can set thier -on there tractor or new pickup. At least around here and it may not be all of them but there's A bunch Fightin' words mister. You wouldn't want a day in our shoes.
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Re: Farmers work is never done!
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01/27/21 07:13 PM
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Yeah cause they never do,it unless they can set thier -on there tractor or new pickup. At least around here and it may not be all of them but there's A bunch Fightin' words mister. You wouldn't want a day in our shoes. Couldn't put in 1 days work in your shoes
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Re: Farmers work is never done!
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01/27/21 07:41 PM
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And for the record...I enjoy eating and the clothes I wear. I just now understand how they live the extravagant lifestyles they live. Not knocking them, I’d take the money too if I could figure out a way to get it. Do you know for a fact that those farmers get millions in subsidies? And do you know for a fact that farming is their only source of income? You couldn’t afford a pound of ground beef without the subsidies the hay farmers get. Farmers work their tails off, and pay for everything themselves. You couldn’t even imagine the insurance premiums a farmer has to carry for a year, let alone the equipment, diesel, seed, water, labor, fences, I could go on for pages on expenses farmers have. I don’t know a single farmer who drives a pickup less than two years old, very few who have a full fleet of brand new tractors. The ones who do are corporate farms. Beside that, as hard as they work, they ought to be able to live comfortable.
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Re: Farmers work is never done!
[Re: nate]
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01/27/21 07:57 PM
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It costs around $500 an acre to produce alfalfa hay. An acre will produce on average 8 tons per year, current price is 200 per ton. So a farmer net profits 1,100 per acre. Now that’s just covering what it cost to plant, water, harvest and stack the alfalfa. Add to that the cost of the equipment to do it, which will cost in excess of $500,000, and the upkeep and maintenance on those machines. Now add to that the price of an acre of tillable land with water, minimum $15,000 per acre. Also the cost of insurance you have to pay for. Now imagine that a hailstorm comes through and wrecks your crop, or a dry year reduces your 8 ton per acre to 4, and your insurance will only partly cover the difference.
Now imagine some yahoo on the internet who works half as many hours as you do complaining about greedy farmers getting crop subsidies.
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Re: Farmers work is never done!
[Re: M.Magis]
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01/27/21 08:00 PM
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I’d love to see subsidies go away for a while, just to see the reaction of the idiots that complain about them. If you don’t understand how they work, probably best to keep your mouth shut. Subsidies exist because most people couldn’t afford groceries without them. Maybe you should take a look at the website and see for yourself. Look up a farmer in your area. See for yourself how much groceries you could buy for several 100 grand a year.
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