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Amsteel Rope On Chainsaw Winch? #7171438
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I didnít want to hijack ADCís thread on soft shackles, but wanted to ask. Do any of you have experience using Amsteel rope on a chainsaw winch. The potential weight savings, floatation in wet environments, and the safety are very appealing.
I was thinking that at the end I could potentially ditch the hook and use a soft shackle through the loop at the end of the Amsteel for attaching to the work.

My initial apprehensions are:
Durability against working in abrasive silt.
Under wraps on the drum rendering the winch drum bound.

Any of you have positive or negative experiences with what I describe?

Re: Amsteel Rope On Chainsaw Winch? [Re: mad_mike] #7171508
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No reason it shouldn't work. I have 2 electric winches and one hand winch and they all work great.


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Re: Amsteel Rope On Chainsaw Winch? [Re: mad_mike] #7171632
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If I was buying a winch ain't no way I would load it with traditional steel cable

Re: Amsteel Rope On Chainsaw Winch? [Re: BTLowry] #7171664
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Originally Posted by BTLowry
If I was buying a winch ain't no way I would load it with traditional steel cable


Thank you.

Re: Amsteel Rope On Chainsaw Winch? [Re: Whopper Stopper] #7171665
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Originally Posted by Whopper Stopper
No reason it shouldn't work. I have 2 electric winches and one hand winch and they all work great.


WS

Thank you.

Re: Amsteel Rope On Chainsaw Winch? [Re: ] #7171669
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Originally Posted by Twolines
I have amsteel 7/16 on my 10,000 lb bumper winch. Pretty sure itís rated at twice my winch rating. The winch is on a 75 1ton 4x4 dodge dually. I have yanked the heck out of it pulling logs and a few vehicles.
I was worried about durability but so far itís holding up well, been on there about 4 years.
One thing I like is it winds up on the winch way better than cable and doesnít kink.
Not real sure about using it on a saw winch but donít see why you couldnít.

Itís just cable being replaced by rope, right? May I ask what you have on the end to make attachment to? I have read that you can tie knots in the Amsteel if needed. Expectation of strength of a knot should be that it would diminish the strength by up to 50%. Still acceptable for many field applications.

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Re: Amsteel Rope On Chainsaw Winch? [Re: mad_mike] #7171698
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Wouldn't splicing in a metal hook preserve the strength of the Amsteel?


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Re: Amsteel Rope On Chainsaw Winch? [Re: DuxDawg] #7171707
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Originally Posted by DuxDawg
Wouldn't splicing in a metal hook preserve the strength of the Amsteel?


Probably to a small degree. I am leaning towards splicing an eye at the end and using the soft shackles to make attachments. The floating characteristics of the line seems too highly valuable for my needs to add the hook.

Re: Amsteel Rope On Chainsaw Winch? [Re: mad_mike] #7171748
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Are you talking about a capstan winch ? Is so I can tell first hand pulling a moose out of a bog this year we had to use some nylon style rope with the winch rope. First it melts if you get much slippage and 2 it smacks the crap out of your fingers when is slips off the spool under a load.


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Originally Posted by cbat
Are you talking about a capstan winch ? Is so I can tell first hand pulling a moose out of a bog this year we had to use some nylon style rope with the winch rope. First it melts if you get much slippage and 2 it smacks the crap out of your fingers when is slips off the spool under a load.

No, Lewis winch. My knuckles hurt after a walk.

Re: Amsteel Rope On Chainsaw Winch? [Re: mad_mike] #7172054
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Don't knot the Amsteel rope. there are lots of videos on youtube how to splice it.



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Re: Amsteel Rope On Chainsaw Winch? [Re: mad_mike] #7172063
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M M , I have some for backing on the boat anchor winch and have never had a problem with it. I think what I have is neutral buoyancy. Lack of stretch is not a plus in my application

Re: Amsteel Rope On Chainsaw Winch? [Re: chas3457] #7172116
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Originally Posted by chas3457
Don't knot the Amsteel rope. there are lots of videos on youtube how to splice it.



Charlie

Thank you. I found a bunch.

Re: Amsteel Rope On Chainsaw Winch? [Re: 3 Fingers] #7172118
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Originally Posted by 3 Fingers
M M , I have some for backing on the boat anchor winch and have never had a problem with it. I think what I have is neutral buoyancy. Lack of stretch is not a plus in my application

Thank you 3Fís.
The Comm Fish guys I asks says the stuff is good to go. They says treat it like you would any cable on a winch.

Re: Amsteel Rope On Chainsaw Winch? [Re: ] #7172295
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Originally Posted by Twolines
Mine came with a thimble in an eye. Not sure how they made the eye as itís covered with some kind of rubber collar. I just stuck my factory hook on it.
If you get on their site u can get a good look at their factory drum attachment, itís kind of a multi use style. How does a cable attach to ur winch now?

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