Re: texans got trouble
[Re: danny clifton]
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02/19/21 07:17 PM
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^^^^ No^^^ just build for a friend and it was all the same as Washington State.
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Re: texans got trouble
[Re: danny clifton]
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02/19/21 07:18 PM
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Nebraska, you can still build with 2x4 walls
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Re: texans got trouble
[Re: Macthediver]
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02/19/21 07:36 PM
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Danny I gotta think them folks down south are more interested in having the A/C work right in summer. Than thinking about few days the furnace runs when it gets cool. Now when it actually very cold and loose power, they are just screwed.. It's simple fact that city infrastructure things cost more here in north. Fire hydrants are all self draining and sprinkler systems in unheated areas are dry systems. Not sure how things are set up in other cities. But the city well house here have diesel back up for the electric pumps. all to add to very good gravity system.. I know that this last cold snap there were still several main breaks even in a system build for cold. Anyway as much as what people in metro areas can be a prepper. Still lot folks screwed when power goes out for more than 24/48. I don't have any of the dehydrated meals squirreled away myself just not my thing.. I do know a guy has a boot legged shallow well in his basement. can use old pitcher pump get water push comes to shove..
I grew up kind of off the grid being what was thought of as suburbs back in day. could shoot gun in yard pet cows over the back fence..We had oil heat from old Super Flame oil burner gravity fed so no electricity need to run that. All Ma's canned goods were in what she called cellar. Just unheated basement under the kitchen had ladder no stairs..All the plumbing was also in there under just kitchen and bathroom.. Kitchen cook stove was LP so wasn't and issue. We did loose water when power went out. Could get few gallons water off the pressure tank if really needed. The only one time we were with out power for more than 24 hours was after house took lighting strike. That was during warm weather so heating wasn't issue. Dad got a generator and ran the refrigerator and freezer with that. Power company had to put in a new service and electrician had to do meter box and breaker panel. they were blown out along with lot outlets. But anyway I just don't think it's realistic to expect mass amounts of people to worry to much about that 1 time..Pretty easy to see that now even at start of covid and was no power loss or cold involved.
I was wondering how they were doing for toilet paper??? Lot them folks probably freak out can't use a proper bathroom. Things get bad my wife is good with 5 gallon bucket with trash bag in it. Done it more than once.
Mac
Many many homes in my area are shallow wells.
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Re: texans got trouble
[Re: Squash]
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02/19/21 07:38 PM
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The rural areas with farms are having trouble getting water to their animals. I doubt there will be any changes to building codes, maybe in the city, but we generally don't like rules or regulations in Texas. I can’t believe that all Texans cannot deal with this cold snap ? I’ll bet rural Texans are OK, but urban Texans , like urban dwellers in every state, are the majority that are the most helpless ? Texans here please correct me if I’m wrong ? I’ll bet there will be some serious overhaul of many building codes coming Texans way. Like burying water mains several feet below grade. I think I’d buy a wood stove.
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Re: texans got trouble
[Re: gcs]
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02/19/21 07:41 PM
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I was reading about burst water mains there, How does a water main burst? aren't they underground? Here, anything 3' or under will never freeze, and we get weather like Texas had every year, multiple times, So unless the mains are laying on the surface how does one freeze? Code in my are is 43 inches for buried water lines. But pack down or remove the snow on the surface and I have seen lines freeze 5 foot down. Seen many frozen lines buried thawed with a welder.
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Re: texans got trouble
[Re: danny clifton]
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02/19/21 07:47 PM
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still wonder what happened to shut the power off in tx. no way the demand for kilowatts was higher than a 97 degree day with 92% humidity They couldn't make any... I know the wind mills in Michigan are engineered to minimize weight of blades as they are so dang big. I think the coating of ice adds many tons and also screws up aero dynamics. On a slow wind day or no wind day you can see a bend in the blades. I think they would self destruct with the ice. The blades also change pitch as wind speed changes.
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Re: texans got trouble
[Re: danny clifton]
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02/19/21 08:15 PM
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So what Feedinggrounds ? What do they do when the wind doesn't blow? Use your head. For some reason the juice was turned off. Nothing at all to do with windmills. The regular power plants NEVER go offline. They have to kick in on still days. You ever heard of the lights going off cause the wind isn't blowing??????????????????
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: texans got trouble
[Re: Feedinggrounds]
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02/19/21 08:56 PM
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still wonder what happened to shut the power off in tx. no way the demand for kilowatts was higher than a 97 degree day with 92% humidity They couldn't make any... I know the wind mills in Michigan are engineered to minimize weight of blades as they are so dang big. I think the coating of ice adds many tons and also screws up aero dynamics. On a slow wind day or no wind day you can see a bend in the blades. I think they would self destruct with the ice. The blades also change pitch as wind speed changes. In the summer you only change the temp 25 degrees (97 down to 72) current temp changes ( 0 upto 68) lot more power needed to change temp 68 degrees. Also the electric co greed by not winterising was a problem.
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Re: texans got trouble
[Re: danny clifton]
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02/19/21 09:03 PM
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Good point about the tree trimming by BT. Trim trimming? Tree trimmer go broke trimming power lines in our area. Never seen one ever in 7 years here and they needed to start it 10 years ago. But Texas is coming back online and the Aggies will rise again! I guess. Never been to the mystical, magical place called College Station. Heard it's beeeeeeuuuuuuuttttiful.
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Re: texans got trouble
[Re: danny clifton]
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02/19/21 10:04 PM
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Like Kentuckians, Texans are tough hombres...They will be fine.
We lost power here for a month in January '09...2.5 inch ice storm in frigid conditions ...No problem, just go back to the old (self sufficient) ways and life goes on.
All Texans outside of the cities will do the same..."Country folks can survive".
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Re: texans got trouble
[Re: Wanna Be]
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02/19/21 10:48 PM
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So at what temp do running faucets freeze? Heck, if we see temps in the 20’s for 3-4hrs during the night our faucets are dripping. Just something we’ve always done and never had an issue with freezing or burst pipes. How you gonna have your faucets drip WannaBe with no pump pressure cause no electricity? And it was < 20 degrees for 7 days here in Dallas with temps right around 3-10 each day. All will resume of course, but people texting pics of frozen toilets in their houses was kinda different.
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Re: texans got trouble
[Re: danny clifton]
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02/19/21 10:51 PM
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... we real native Texans are fine .... fixed any problem we had already ( most I know including me and mine drained wells and pipes and put up wood) and are back to work... transplants will likely cry for some time to come
.... Texas is turning into a retirement home for sissies and central/ south americans that struggle with simple tasks such as breathing with their mouth closed
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Re: texans got trouble
[Re: danny clifton]
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02/19/21 10:57 PM
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... that wasn’t necessarily directed at you Mark... but seeing your post came in just before mine the irony must stand lol
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Re: texans got trouble
[Re: Jtrapper]
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02/19/21 10:58 PM
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So you still have some furniture in your house that you didn't have to burn? ... we sit on the knotty logs that don’t split in here lol
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Re: texans got trouble
[Re: danny clifton]
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02/19/21 11:01 PM
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Get a splinter in your keister.
Brother in law tried to play dukes of hazard in a mini van so had to drive through the frozen tundra 20 miles north of here to pull him out of the ditch, bout the only excitement i had during this 'crisis'.
Not my circus, not my clowns.
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