Red Dot on a shotgun
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I have a red dot on my grand daughters shotgun for turkey hunting this spring. Will that work for trap shooting? I have never seen a post about that.
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Re: Red Dot on a shotgun
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I think its gonna be a bit tough to get on target with a scope for trap.
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Re: Red Dot on a shotgun
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Swinging and shooting would be tough for moving targets it’s tough on moving turkeys also so get her out there ASAP before they get spooky.
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Re: Red Dot on a shotgun
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The red dot will interfere with picking up the target. The first thing that will happen is the shooter picks up their head to find it, hits the trigger and promptly shoots two feet or so over the target. It doesn't take much, even just a sixteenth of an inch will do it. Both eyes open, focus on the target and NOT on the beads, keep your head down, keep the gun moving. Trap is a game of moving targets not stationary ones. Shoot where they are going to be. One other tid-bit, field guns work in the hunting arena, the skeet field, and on a sporting course, 50/50 patterns. Trap guns are built for shooting trap. They are set up to shoot high, built in lead for rising targets patterning anywhere from 60/40 to 100% high at about 30 yards depending on what the shooter prefers. Spend some time on a patterning board which ever way you decide to go. Keep it fun.
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Re: Red Dot on a shotgun
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if you shoot with both eyes open it mite work , i have bad shooting habit of closing my left eye and am left eye dominate , but right handed. Same problem I have
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Re: Red Dot on a shotgun
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if you shoot with both eyes open it mite work , i have bad shooting habit of closing my left eye and am left eye dominate , but right handed. I’m misreading something here...I would think the only way you could hit something shooting right handed IS by closing your left eye, otherwise your dominant eye will take over and you wouldn’t hit anything. Only reason I’m saying that is my DIL is the same way. She couldn’t even hit a turkey at 20 yards until I reached over and covered her left eye and had her sight in with her right eye. She’ll even wear a patch over it sometimes dove hunting.
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Re: Red Dot on a shotgun
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if you shoot with both eyes open it mite work , i have bad shooting habit of closing my left eye and am left eye dominate , but right handed. I’m misreading something here...I would think the only way you could hit something shooting right handed IS by closing your left eye, otherwise your dominant eye will take over and you wouldn’t hit anything. Only reason I’m saying that is my DIL is the same way. She couldn’t even hit a turkey at 20 yards until I reached over and covered her left eye and had her sight in with her right eye. She’ll even wear a patch over it sometimes dove hunting. That's how I do it. Right handed and left eye dominant. I have to close my left eye to shoot anything, including a bow with no sights.
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Re: Red Dot on a shotgun
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I think it is not worth trying her on clay targets from what I am hearing, I will just take it off. She is 12 this year and I wanted her to have a better chance at the turkey, grandson lifted his head and shot over his first turkey.
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Re: Red Dot on a shotgun
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try it .
it will matter more where it is mounted farther out will probably work better, you may need to build up the cheek rest , sleeping pad foam and vet wrap then when you have that just right to get proper cheek weld it should line up well to make it work
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if you shoot with both eyes open it mite work , i have bad shooting habit of closing my left eye and am left eye dominate , but right handed. I’m misreading something here...I would think the only way you could hit something shooting right handed IS by closing your left eye, otherwise your dominant eye will take over and you wouldn’t hit anything. Only reason I’m saying that is my DIL is the same way. She couldn’t even hit a turkey at 20 yards until I reached over and covered her left eye and had her sight in with her right eye. She’ll even wear a patch over it sometimes dove hunting. if you put a pair of shooting glasses on her , then have her mount the shotgun she rests the forearm on your shoulder she looks at the bead and loses her right eye and you place scotch tape on her left lens so that she can not see the bead at the end of the barrel but can see peripheral
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Re: Red Dot on a shotgun
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it isn't a patch just enough that the non dominant eye can't see the end of the barrel it can still see most everything else a half inch square well placed
or get a red ryder and shoot left handed for a jug of bbs the a hundred pack or 2 of shot shell target loads and go shoot a bunch left handed , and don't fight the eye dominance
my dad has been a squinter his hole life fighting left eye dominance and right handed , especially when young they can be retrained to be left handed shooter in not that much ammo
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Re: Red Dot on a shotgun
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I'd say no to the red dot for trap. In fact I've learned to not even use any beads when I'm shooting trap. It's weird after you shoot enough you have muscle memory and don't even need to look down the barrel.
As to the switching hands I shot all guns right handed until I was around 14. Someone, somewhere figured out I was left eye dominant and I switched. I can shoot rifles and pistols right or left handed. I can only shoot shotguns left handed now after shooting trap competitively for a number of years. I can't seem to get myself to close one eye when I am shooting shotguns right handed, and it's a futile attempt to hit anything with my left eye dominance. Both of my children are left hand dominant...I think I missed the boat on that as I am right hand dominant for everything else in life.
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Re: Red Dot on a shotgun
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My oldest daughter is right handed, left eye dominant. I just taught her to shoot left handed. Simple solution until you go thru the gyrations of coming up with left handed shotguns, rifles, and bows. But hey, it's only money. She has two left handed 1100's, a 12ga trap and a full size frame 20 with extra barrels. The bows were fairly easy, I worked in an archery shop. Her rifle is a Marlin 336. I need to get busy and come up with a left handed bolt gun which will be a 700.
Cross eye dominance occurs in about 10% of the male population, 15% of the female and athlete population, both male and female. So it's not really an uncommon thing.
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