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Re: The ATF is 'Woke'. [Re: chas3457] #7197334
02/26/21 08:48 PM
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I always tell people that there are people watching the people that are watching me. In actuality there are probably more than that.


"Skin that smokewagon and see what happens"
Re: The ATF is 'Woke'. [Re: chas3457] #7197340
02/26/21 08:52 PM
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Non binary on a firearms form? I guess the atf is truly clueless. Only semi autos can take a binary trigger and only a few of those. It's the only thing that makes sense.

I'm checking it with my next bolt action purchase for sure.

Re: The ATF is 'Woke'. [Re: loosegoose] #7197343
02/26/21 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by loosegoose
Everyone has a right to own a gun for defense if life and property.

2 weeks ago I stayed at an Airbnb and the host was a trans "woman" (dude), and she/he answered the door openly carrying a pistol. She/he carried a gun the whole time we were there, and the house had cameras all over too. She/he was very nice and mostly normal, we didn't talk politics but she/he seemed fairly libertarian. we all stayed up late talking guns and old house stuff. She/he has a legitimate fear of violence being brought upon her/him because of how she/he chooses to live her/his life. Gays and trans that carry guns don't get bashed. It's actually quite common for gay and trans folks to carry because they fear for thier safety.

I had read that He/she's and Gays experience the most violence attacks from, wait for it......... each other. Not from Straights or heterosexuals. I guess the % of the population is so small they get jealous and fight hard for their He/she's and Gay's. Not enough to go around I guess. Perhaps that explains the lefts long running recruitment drive.


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Re: The ATF is 'Woke'. [Re: chas3457] #7197354
02/26/21 09:02 PM
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I seen a pair of gay men slap the heckl out of one another in a trailer court one time. Then one got in the car and the other pried the door open as the one fleeing finally found reverse. Sent his lil buddy rollin. I couldn't stop laughin


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Re: The ATF is 'Woke'. [Re: chas3457] #7197364
02/26/21 09:10 PM
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The whole he/she thing is ridiculous. Pick one.

Re: The ATF is 'Woke'. [Re: chas3457] #7197383
02/26/21 09:21 PM
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Shouldn’t need to fill out a form in the first place.


ATF should be a convenience store.


Who is John Galt?

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Re: The ATF is 'Woke'. [Re: Feedinggrounds] #7197394
02/26/21 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Feedinggrounds
Originally Posted by loosegoose
Everyone has a right to own a gun for defense if life and property.

2 weeks ago I stayed at an Airbnb and the host was a trans "woman" (dude), and she/he answered the door openly carrying a pistol. She/he carried a gun the whole time we were there, and the house had cameras all over too. She/he was very nice and mostly normal, we didn't talk politics but she/he seemed fairly libertarian. we all stayed up late talking guns and old house stuff. She/he has a legitimate fear of violence being brought upon her/him because of how she/he chooses to live her/his life. Gays and trans that carry guns don't get bashed. It's actually quite common for gay and trans folks to carry because they fear for thier safety.

I had read that He/she's and Gays experience the most violence attacks from, wait for it......... each other. Not from Straights or heterosexuals. I guess the % of the population is so small they get jealous and fight hard for their He/she's and Gay's. Not enough to go around I guess. Perhaps that explains the lefts long running recruitment drive.

That's where most of it comes from, sure. In any case, they have just as much right to defend themselves from violence as you and me.

Re: The ATF is 'Woke'. [Re: chas3457] #7197449
02/26/21 09:58 PM
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Yep the He/ She's having a pinch fight and next thing you know out come a rod, BANG!!!


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Re: The ATF is 'Woke'. [Re: Feedinggrounds] #7197454
02/26/21 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Feedinggrounds
Yep the He/ She's having a pinch fight and next thing you know out come a rod, BANG!!!


Man, I hate when that happens.

Re: The ATF is 'Woke'. [Re: chas3457] #7197471
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laugh


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Re: The ATF is 'Woke'. [Re: loosegoose] #7197477
02/26/21 10:11 PM
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Goose,


I KNEW you would show up and offer some liberal insight.

Seriously, the first thought that went through my mind as soon as I hit the 'post' button, was "Ol' Captain Poopy Pants" is gonna have something to add. laugh

It just never gets old, being right.

Carry on



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Re: The ATF is 'Woke'. [Re: chas3457] #7197515
02/26/21 10:34 PM
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I had a friend, when PA still had the 3 day waiting period for pistols, put down "master" in the race box. That went over like a wet fart in church.


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Re: The ATF is 'Woke'. [Re: chas3457] #7197534
02/26/21 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by chas3457
Goose,


I KNEW you would show up and offer some liberal insight.

Seriously, the first thought that went through my mind as soon as I hit the 'post' button, was "Ol' Captain Poopy Pants" is gonna have something to add. laugh

It just never gets old, being right.

Carry on



Charlie





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For real, though, I can't imagine anyone calling themselves a friend of the 2nd amendment and having a problem with trans or gay people owning guns. And just so we're clear, any background check form is dumb, and having something besides male or female is even dumber yet.

Last edited by loosegoose; 02/26/21 11:01 PM.
Re: The ATF is 'Woke'. [Re: chas3457] #7197537
02/26/21 11:00 PM
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that will be interesting the form Must Match your ID exactly

so it would require that a state already has a Non Binary status to be used.

as long as everyone has Equal ability to buy a gun and exercise their right to defense I don't care if they are A gender Non Binary .

while these folks are often taken advantage of by the party of promise and neglect no American is the enemy because of who they are only what they do. Denying others is a DO that puts them over the edge into enemy territory and not what box they check.

Last edited by GREENCOUNTYPETE; 02/26/21 11:04 PM.

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Re: The ATF is 'Woke'. [Re: chas3457] #7197550
02/26/21 11:17 PM
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Why would they need to know if you are male or female? You're buying a gun, not tampons.

Re: The ATF is 'Woke'. [Re: elkaholic] #7197556
02/26/21 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by elkaholic
I had a friend, when PA still had the 3 day waiting period for pistols, put down "master" in the race box. That went over like a wet fart in church.

grin


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Re: The ATF is 'Woke'. [Re: chas3457] #7197734
02/27/21 08:24 AM
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The fundamental problem is the form itself from a 2A perspective.

I do however think there is an additional 2A threat when people are "required" to identify personal information on the form that can be used to extrapolate likely political ideology.

I am a middle aged white male who has bought more than a few weapons. The Feds can extrapolate that I am likely a 2A supporter just with the form(s).

However, a black female or a binary whatever buying a weapon is less likely to be a 2A supporter. Yes, she/it is buying a weapon. She/it will however be more inclined to vote on race/gender and therefore the Feds do not give her/its purchase and ownership as much weight when calculating how much it can politically trample on the 2A.

Re: The ATF is 'Woke'. [Re: walleye101] #7197753
02/27/21 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by walleye101
Why would they need to know if you are male or female? You're buying a gun, not tampons.

I completely understand your sarcasm, but will point out that the first day of wrestling practice every year consisted of a half hour of cutting tampons in half when I was a kid. We didn't have girls wrestling back then, them things make great nose bleed stoppers.
A box or two of the cheap cardboard tampons are a great thing to have in the med kit for both genders. wink

Re: The ATF is 'Woke'. [Re: chas3457] #7197763
02/27/21 09:08 AM
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Insta check is a good thing. Quit complaining. It keeps guns out of the hands of people who would use them to rob and murder. It also keeps the liberals from demanding more gun control. Were you guys asleep when Willie signed it into law?


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: The ATF is 'Woke'. [Re: chas3457] #7197787
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Originally Posted by chas3457
The "new" form you fill out when buying a firearm, now has a third option on one of the questions.


Male
Female
Non Binary

Seriously???

If you don't know which bathroom to use, you probably shouldn't be anywhere near a firearm. eek



Charlie

Check the "Non Binary" one and their less apt to mess with ya for fear of being called some kind of Phobic. smile

Last edited by upstateNY; 02/27/21 09:38 AM.

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