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Re: Will they cancel Scripture next? [Re: LLtrapper] #7206820
03/06/21 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by LLtrapper
Originally Posted by mink99
Some of you need to remember that there is only one sin that gets you sent to hades. And it’s not homosexuality.


Many different sins will get you there to include homosexuality. Not my words but God's. LLL


But you forget about Jesus. Those sins are all paid for. Yours, mine, everybody’s. We don’t go to heaven by doing good deeds, we get to heaven by believing in Jesus and what he did for us. That’s why heaven is full of sinners cuz we all fall short. Repented homosexuals, murderers, drug addicts, rapists, even pedophiles will be there with priests, policeman, firefighters, bankers, moms, dads, etc. No sin touches the blood on the cross except those that send themselves to hades and those are the nonbelievers.


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Re: Will they cancel Scripture next? [Re: LLtrapper] #7206834
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Doubt it.

But if so, us that God’s will?

Re: Will they cancel Scripture next? [Re: LLtrapper] #7206850
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Why should homosexuals have to repent and stop practicing their sin, unless remarried adulterers should repent and leave their new spouse?

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Re: Will they cancel Scripture next? [Re: LLtrapper] #7206853
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There will most definitely not be a lot of sinners in heaven. I am forgiven. He no longer considers me a sinner. Others might - but Christ looks on me and others who have turned to him as His bride - without spot or blemish. He has removed all sins as far as the east is from the west for those willing to repent and accept Him as Lord and Saviour. That is the awesome thing about Christ - when He forgives us - it means something!

Re: Will they cancel Scripture next? [Re: LLtrapper] #7206863
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James -

I agree with you on this. Scripture allows remarriage only after death of a spouse.

Re: Will they cancel Scripture next? [Re: LLtrapper] #7206899
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He said go and sin no more. No where does it say I can confess my sins and go about sinning as if nothing ever happened and I have a free pass. If you have read that please quote it. By continuing down the same path you would cheapen grace. Not the way it is or ever has been. If that was the case I could repent once and be free to sin all I wanted for the rest of my life because I had the golden ticket. We must repent every time we sin. LLL


Isaiah 51:6 But my salvation will last forever, my righteousness will never fail.
Re: Will they cancel Scripture next? [Re: LLtrapper] #7206912
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As for being divorced I would point you to the Samaritan woman at the well. Jesus offered her living water knowing she was living with a man who was not her husband and that she had been married five times prior to that. Why offer her salvation if she was divorced and was doomed for it? LLL


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Re: Will they cancel Scripture next? [Re: LLtrapper] #7206914
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Which comes first, salvation or repentance?

Re: Will they cancel Scripture next? [Re: LLtrapper] #7206933
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Originally Posted by LLtrapper
He said go and sin no more. No where does it say I can confess my sins and go about sinning as if nothing ever happened and I have a free pass. If you have read that please quote it. By continuing down the same path you would cheapen grace. Not the way it is or ever has been. If that was the case I could repent once and be free to sin all I wanted for the rest of my life because I had the golden ticket. We must repent every time we sin. LLL


That’s why I said a repentant person will still go to heaven. A person needs to try and not sin after becoming a saved individual. But to say that suddenly we can all just repent and live a perfect life is ridiculous. Just a mere bad thought is a sin.


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Re: Will they cancel Scripture next? [Re: ] #7206937
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Originally Posted by J Staton
Which comes first, salvation or repentance?

I think you already know that. No one is beyond God's mercy while they're still breathing. Matthew 12:31.

Re: Will they cancel Scripture next? [Re: mink99] #7206965
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Originally Posted by mink99
Originally Posted by LLtrapper
He said go and sin no more. No where does it say I can confess my sins and go about sinning as if nothing ever happened and I have a free pass. If you have read that please quote it. By continuing down the same path you would cheapen grace. Not the way it is or ever has been. If that was the case I could repent once and be free to sin all I wanted for the rest of my life because I had the golden ticket. We must repent every time we sin. LLL


That’s why I said a repentant person will still go to heaven. A person needs to try and not sin after becoming a saved individual. But to say that suddenly we can all just repent and live a perfect life is ridiculous. Just a mere bad thought is a sin.


Agreed. That is why I said you need to repent almost daily. All of us. LLL


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Re: Will they cancel Scripture next? [Re: LLtrapper] #7207064
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I heard a very good sermon on that exact passage. We look at it from the US perspective of divorce. Consider back 2000 years ago the life expectancy of husbands engaged in battle and physical toil. It is very possible all 5 of her husbands had died. Jesus knew her heart and current situation. We view the Samaritan woman as an adultress. The Bible does not say this. Jesus tells her what she said is true and that the man she is now with is not her husband. More importantly - vs 39 tells us Many believed in Him because of her testimony.
I am only challenging your current implied statement of her being divorced.

Re: Will they cancel Scripture next? [Re: TreedaBlackdog] #7207137
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Originally Posted by TreedaBlackdog
LL-
I heard a very good sermon on that exact passage. We look at it from the US perspective of divorce. Consider back 2000 years ago the life expectancy of husbands engaged in battle and physical toil. It is very possible all 5 of her husbands had died. Jesus knew her heart and current situation. We view the Samaritan woman as an adultress. The Bible does not say this. Jesus tells her what she said is true and that the man she is now with is not her husband. More importantly - vs 39 tells us Many believed in Him because of her testimony.
I am only challenging your current implied statement of her being divorced.


I do not know either way. It implies she was not married. It says she was married five times. Why would that have been important if she was not sinning? I can't say. The act of divorce is the sin. Can a person not be forgiven for that? After all she got remarried. We both assume. We have to be careful about the law and the heart of the law. We conflate them often. LLL


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Re: Will they cancel Scripture next? [Re: LLtrapper] #7207152
03/06/21 09:31 PM
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How about this woman in John 8:3-5 "The scribes and the Pharisees brought a woman who had been caught in adultery, and placing her in the midst they said to him, "Teacher, this woman has been caught in the act of adultery. Now in the Law Moses commanded us to stone such women. So what do you say?"

We know she was forgiven. Right? LLL


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Re: Will they cancel Scripture next? [Re: LLtrapper] #7207171
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Or this from the woman at the well. What was she talking about in the the things she had done? I don't know for sure but here it is.... Many of the Samaritans from that village committed themselves to him because of the woman’s witness: “He knew all about the things I did. He knows me inside and out!”


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