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Victor #2 long for fisher #7213392
03/12/21 12:05 PM
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I just acquired a couple victor #2 longs and i was wondering if they would hold a fisher well


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Re: Victor #2 long for fisher [Re: Ethan1234] #7213403
03/12/21 12:32 PM
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If the springs are still strong on them then I would have to say yes they will.


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Re: Victor #2 long for fisher [Re: Ethan1234] #7213405
03/12/21 12:35 PM
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There kinda strong and weak at same time


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Re: Victor #2 long for fisher [Re: Ethan1234] #7213410
03/12/21 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Ethan1234
There kinda strong and weak at same time


Would you like to explain what you mean by that comment. Thanks


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Re: Victor #2 long for fisher [Re: Ethan1234] #7213421
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They arent weak but they arent super strong either


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Re: Victor #2 long for fisher [Re: Ethan1234] #7213427
03/12/21 01:09 PM
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Put a shock spring on them.

Re: Victor #2 long for fisher [Re: Ethan1234] #7213432
03/12/21 01:10 PM
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Nbr two dbl springs will hold a coyote but not recommended as small jaw space. The trap will hold a fisher with no problems providing you put some extra swivels in chain. Putting chain in middle of base plate would be good. The two springs keep solid grip on paw and ctr swiveling helps.


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Re: Victor #2 long for fisher [Re: Ethan1234] #7213445
03/12/21 01:24 PM
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You can buy helper springs to stiffen up those stock springs. Wrap some copper wire around the helper springs to keep them In place. Then flux up that copper wire and solder every thing In place.
Or cut a piece of 3/4" or 1" black pipe that Is just as wide as the spring end and place that in the spring and wire and solder that In place. Or stand the spring end on something solid and place a length of pipe In the spring and beat It so It reforms the spring end. This will give you more spring strength. But It's only a temporary fix.
I prefer to leave the chain attached to the end of the spring. When you make a catch If the foot slides at all It's going to be pulled Into the tightest part of the jaws. So If your springs are a bit on the weak side this will help with a bit more holding power.

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Re: Victor #2 long for fisher [Re: RdFx] #7213453
03/12/21 01:28 PM
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To make the springs stronger, put a piece of steel pipe in a vice. Place the pipe through "u" of the spring. Pull and hold the spring down while hitting thr end of the spring over yhr pipe with a small sledge hammer. This should help put some power back in the springs.

Re: Victor #2 long for fisher [Re: Ethan1234] #7213460
03/12/21 01:42 PM
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The springs just make the trap close faster so strengthening the springs will make a faster #2 longspring.
The design of the double longspring vs a coil is where the trap gets some tenacious holding power.
The eyes of the springs lock up around the jaws.
This trap holds whatever gets in it, period, and will work well for fisher. The jaw spread is about same as a 1.5 coil so that is your foot to trap size reference.
I still run a few #2 longs for coyotes around here in certain locations, they hold coyotes just fine but as mentioned the size/jawspread is on small side for coyotes.
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Re: Victor #2 long for fisher [Re: Ethan1234] #7213461
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Ok thanks everyone for the help


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Re: Victor #2 long for fisher [Re: Ethan1234] #7213549
03/12/21 04:07 PM
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Ethan. Those #2 s are brand new. Never set qith a light rust. Long spring and coil spring traps are very different in the way the springs are.

Long springs and coil spring traps are very different in the strength even as new.

Its sort of distributed differently.

I promise you theyre brand new


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Re: Victor #2 long for fisher [Re: Ethan1234] #7213575
03/12/21 04:58 PM
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I know there new thank you im gonna use them on coon and bobcat and fox


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Re: Victor #2 long for fisher [Re: Ethan1234] #7213581
03/12/21 05:03 PM
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Just center swivel em and go.


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Re: Victor #2 long for fisher [Re: Ethan1234] #7214147
03/13/21 06:31 AM
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Ethan, here are how mine are set up for land trapping here.

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Couple other things. The dog should be filed to have a nice flat slightly beveled up from bottom tip. On the notch on dog...file that so notch is shallow, not deep, and a little bevel to it also to match dog. You want a short throw so to keep pan travel really minimal before the trap fires. Should be a nice crisp short throw.

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As this trap gets used and if those springs weaken, get a set of these booster spring clips and shove them right back into corner of the spring. You can use it like that, or rivet the booster in place, or I have had great luck with a few simple wraps of wire around the bend to hold the booster there. These wire wraps have been in place and went through many, many coyote catches. Real simple cheap way to hold boosters. Dye and wax preserves wire and trap steel for many years.

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And they will hold whatever gets in them.just fine.
The #2 long has been cussed and discussed on here for as long as I've been a member. Ive used several dozen for 40+ years. Yes I use other traps too even larger ones for coyotes and cats, but I don't even hesitate to pull out a #2 when I set each winter because I have a lot of confidence in this trap.
Go have some fun.

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Re: Victor #2 long for fisher [Re: Ethan1234] #7214190
03/13/21 08:31 AM
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^^^ nice!


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Re: Victor #2 long for fisher [Re: Ethan1234] #7214857
03/13/21 09:38 PM
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Heck yeah ill get me a bunch more and start using them on predators and ill night latch them


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Re: Victor #2 long for fisher [Re: Ethan1234] #7214993
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Ethan where do you plan on getting the long springs? I'm only asking because I love long springs.


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Re: Victor #2 long for fisher [Re: NorthenTrapper] #7215000
03/13/21 11:51 PM
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Originally Posted by NorthenTrapper
Ethan where do you plan on getting the long springs? I'm only asking because I love long springs.

Someone here on tman


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Re: Victor #2 long for fisher [Re: Ethan1234] #7215012
03/14/21 12:00 AM
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Victors are good. B&Ls are better. I've held beavers in mine. Longsprings are more stable because of the surface area.

jabNE's mods are about right. I put a j hook through that hole in the frame with machine chain instead of twinloop. Hasn't been a problem, yet.

To clarify I've never trapped for Fisher but wouldn't feel out gunned.

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