We can get 91 at the pump here.

I think some folks are still of the misbelief that high octane means non E., here for sure. Very few sources of high octane are E free, you have to do your homework and you got to ask because it doesn't always specify on the pumps. Again, referring to here.

Hi octavin makes no difference in my two strokes and most have stout compression.
Scoob, do you know "why"?
I've been curious of this a long time.

The compression ratio is still pretty low compared to a modern car engine and the air volume in the cylinder does not generate as much heat either as it is a lot smaller than it is even in a 1.6 liter 4 cylinder car engine. Plus you won't get any valve knocking in any small two smoke as there just aint any in it.

It comes down to if you need 18-20 inches of bar , if you NEED 18-20 inches of bar no battery saw on the market is yet capable of this

the battery saws are great for the people who have plenty of power with a MS170


if you cut less than a tank of gas at a time battery might do you

if you cut all day battery isn't it for you

if you need to be pulling 20 inches of bar to buck a 36 inch tree trunks battery isn't for you


it all depends what you need to cut

this is where the 455 or 2255 same saw different color at 55 cc will pull a 18 great and a 20 decent so you have a saw that can cut some big stuff and a bunch of medium stuff and what ever you need for little stuff.

my brother has a little Stihl and in November we were taking down 5 trees at his house for the new pole shed to go in. so he owns a chain saw but there is a reason he called me he had trees to come down.

I don't recall the exact model of his saw I think 40cc it originally had too large of a bar on it , and he bent it when he was looking for a new bar I told him go smaller I don't recall if he went 12 or 14 inch but it really made the saw cut better not trying to drag too much chain

Stihls battery saws recommend a 10-12 inch bar length that means go with 10 generally but if you insist on it fine use a 12.

as long as your not in a hurry and working wood you can cut with a 10 inch bar knock your self out

just don't get any delusions of Felling a 20 inch tree with your 10 inch saw and bucking it all up

yes with a ton of skill and time you could probably fell a 20 inch in diameter tree with a 10 inch saw but the guy with a 24 inch bar and the saw to pull it will have that tree over in about 3 minutes

Which echo did you go with?

Correct, thats what I was saying, that they do make both a “commercial” grade and a homeowners grade sold at box stores.

Husqvarna Rancher saws are decent saws for home owner usage. Poulan is actually made by Husqvarna group, Ranchers are not made by Poulan.

Stihl 250 for the smaller stuff and still cuts decent firewood. 455 Rancher Husky for the big stuff but it's a lot of saw for a 65 yr old guy to pack around all day.

I never worried about a dealer "near me"- most towns have a Stihl or Husqvarna dealer. I was more worried about how many of the same identical saws I had with me when I went to the woods. When I was production cutting I didnt have time to go to the dealer, that was a weekend thing every once in awhile.. Gas was never an issue either, it didnt sit in the tank for very long.

Ther is a chainsaw out there that is feather light , very cheap to operate , if i can find the link i will post it up . really looking into it myself.

this is a good plan

no doubt the little saw is nice for limbing and about as fast as the heavier 455


the 455 is my light saw and I am thinking about getting a little top handle saw


having just come in from noodling a bunch of rounds so big I can't even roll them new advice at least while I am tired still the 455 is the biggest saw you should get and if you can't drop it with a 20 inch bar don't cut it

I forgot how much work it is once it hits the ground when 1/4 of a round fills a wheel barrow

Not Mac, but went with an echo a couple years ago. Very satisfied, Timber wolf Model,cuts like a champ,no problems and is a real workhorse. Wood is all I use with electric for back up if needed.

yeah big trees are more work than they are worth, more that 28" diameter takes a lot out of ya, cut a black oak once that was 72" acrossed the stump at the widest point, made 8 cords of firewood, took me 3 times as long to work it up as it does smaller stuff.

this one was about 48 at the stump
I though I was being smarter this time
the farm got a goose neck trailer for hauling hay and it was available so I just loaded most of the big rounds on the trailer with the skid loader so so easy going on. with no skid loader man I couldn't hardly even roll many of them off especially if they weren't very round so now I have about 5 ton of wood in my front yard I stand the rounds up noodle them down to 1/4 then I can get that over to the splitter and break it up.

still a crazy amount of work but at least now I can work on it an hour or so at a time each day since it is right next to my drive way

I bought an Echo CS590 a couple years ago. it was just a little over $400 and has a 5 year warranty. It has a lot of power and handles the 20 inch bar really good.

If I was going to get an Echo I would look into the new 4910. It’s basically a clone of the pro saw 501P with a couple less features. I have a 501P and it’s a decent saw.

If that 4910 does what a 501P does it will murder other saws at that price point.

I really like a 50cc saw if I were to only own one.