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Oregon trappers -- HB2844 #7217524
03/16/21 11:04 AM
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This bill is having a hearing - March 18(thursday at 3:15 pm) -- This is the one that takes away the beaver trapping on fed lands and also reclassifies the beaver that limits severely the private property owners rights to remove problem animals --- talk to your reps please (as if they would listen).

Re: Oregon trappers -- HB2844 [Re: H2ORat] #7217572
03/16/21 11:59 AM
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It's a dang shame that we can't be there to testify. The committee chair person is a pretty good guy from what I hear. We need to get in their ears about how harmful this measure will be to landowner rights. This is one of the stronger arguments I think may help deter the measure.


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Re: Oregon trappers -- HB2844 [Re: H2ORat] #7217602
03/16/21 12:35 PM
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I guess if I could not control them on my land, they the State has to remove them, they belong to the State. IMO


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Re: Oregon trappers -- HB2844 [Re: Getting There] #7217612
03/16/21 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Getting There
I guess if I could not control them on my land, they the State has to remove them, they belong to the State. IMO

seeing what they can do to a corn field or a fruit tree/ hazlenut orchard -- by the time you could jump through the hoops there wouldn't be enough of a crop left to worry about, and our wonderful/liberal state would tell you that there is no longer a need to remove them because the crop is already gone - with a smile on their faces.

Re: Oregon trappers -- HB2844 [Re: H2ORat] #7217628
03/16/21 01:24 PM
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Sometimes it’s just best to take care of problems and not include others. Been working that way down here in the South for centuries.

Re: Oregon trappers -- HB2844 [Re: Wanna Be] #7217635
03/16/21 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Wanna Be
Sometimes it’s just best to take care of problems and not include others. Been working that way down here in the South for centuries.

I agree and we have been legally doing this for alot of years -- we can still do this but only at risk of being caught if this passes. I don't know what it is like where you are at in Georgia, but over here there are way too many small acreages and liberals -- someone will turn you in. I don't particularly wish to get fined or lose my hunting/ trapping rights over something that we have had years of doing legally.

Re: Oregon trappers -- HB2844 [Re: H2ORat] #7217637
03/16/21 01:33 PM
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Government trappers are already prohibited to take complaint beavers here. A nutty thing, but it does give private trappers more opportunities to get paid for our skill as trappers.


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Re: Oregon trappers -- HB2844 [Re: H2ORat] #7217669
03/16/21 02:06 PM
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Is it a public hearing ? The kind where the public is conveniently not allowed to attend due to covid


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Re: Oregon trappers -- HB2844 [Re: AntiGov] #7217673
03/16/21 02:13 PM
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yep --- there is a way to send input or participate. Pm me your e-mail if you would like a link. I'm could probably post it here if i was more computer literate.

Re: Oregon trappers -- HB2844 [Re: H2ORat] #7217691
03/16/21 02:40 PM
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OK -- I am going to try to post the link -- please let me know if this works

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Help OFB Oppose Limits on Private Management of Problem Beavers!

On Thursday, March 18th at 3:15pm, the House Committee on Agriculture and Natural Resources will hear HB 2844, which would limit the ability of private landowners to manage beaver on their private lands, and make trapping beaver more costly for trappers.

Presently, beavers are correctly classified as a “rodent” and managed as a predator on private lands by the Oregon Department of Agriculture. Under current law, they can be taken by a private landowner or their agent on their private lands without the need for state authorization. They can also be taken on public lands with a furbearer license.

HB 2844 would change that management structure for both private and public lands, moving management authority to the Oregon Department of Fish and Wildlife, requiring a permit be issued for each individual take of beaver, and requiring non-lethal measures prior to taking beaver! This approach ignores private landowners' need to be able to manage beavers quickly and without administrative hurdles to protect their infrastructure and property.

We need you to show up and help us defeat this damaging proposal! How can you help? Please complete ALL THREE STEPS below!

Show up to Testify!

To sign up to testify, please click here and sign up to testify live at the hearing! After you fill out the form, you will be emailed a link to participate. Please note that the hearing is time limited, and they are exceedingly unlikely to get to many members of the public who sign up. However, the more people that sign and show up, the more the committee will understand that this is an issue that people care about, and that deserves a full hearing!

Submit Written Testimony!

Please click here to submit written testimony for the committee using the talking points below.

Write your Legislator!

Use our form to write your legislator a letter using the talking points below!

Talking Points:

I am a farmer, and beaver management is critical to maintaining my farm infrastructure, preventing flooding, and maintaining roads.

Beavers can cause extensive riparian damage, their dams can block culverts, wash out critical roads, flood farm fields, homes, and parks, and alter water systems. I rely on the ability to privately trap beavers to avoid the significant damage that beavers can cause to my operation. I do not trap beavers for sport – I only take them when they are causing damage to my property or impacting my farm.

Beavers are abundant on our landscape, and there is no data that suggests that they need additional protection. Additionally, the bill proposes to remove the classification of beavers as a rodent. Beavers are taxonomically classified as rodents, and should be correctly identified in statute.

As a landowner, I need to address a beaver issue that is jeopardizing my property immediately. I cannot afford to be required to get a permit from ODFW (which I know environmental groups would advocate should eventually not be issued). Further, the available non-lethal deterrence doesn’t work well in my experience, and relocating beavers can actually transfer disease.

I need to maintain the ability to manage predatory species as needed to protect my farm – the state should not eliminate tools, especially with no sound scientific basis to do so. I urge you to OPPOSE HB 2844.


Click the link below to log in and send your message:
https://www.votervoice.net/BroadcastLinks/X_-ZatPGp_B-abZEdCgusQ

Re: Oregon trappers -- HB2844 [Re: H2ORat] #7217698
03/16/21 02:45 PM
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Good job H20!


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Re: Oregon trappers -- HB2844 [Re: H2ORat] #7217908
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I see messages about bills all the time. this was the first one with the actual steps to follow to make it possible in a reasonable manner. Thanks H2O

Re: Oregon trappers -- HB2844 [Re: H2ORat] #7217911
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You can thank my aunt for that. She was a farm bureau president a couple of years ago and is involved in the politics -- I have finally realized that I have to be also (I despise politicians and anything political) so I will try to keep up on some of this.

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The below listed link is what I found to be the text of HB 2844. If not of interest, I will delete the post.

https://olis.oregonlegislature.gov/liz/2021R1/Downloads/MeasureDocument/HB2844/Introduced


Note to self- Engage brain before opening mouth (or hitting the ENTER key/SUBMIT button).

Ron Fry

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LA - that is perfect - I decided not to link the text in my earlier post simply because my daughter was helping me with it and it is finals week at OSU for her. Pretty much sums it up -- this is one of several attacks coming through right now. What got the farm bureau involved was all the problem beaver that the farmers just deal with on their own land and while changing the classification doesn't seem to mean much the repercussions in our area are enormous.

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fight hard guys !!!

Re: Oregon trappers -- HB2844 [Re: H2ORat] #7218321
03/17/21 12:55 AM
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Got an e-mail from Stan today -- he implied that there were only 25 or so written arguments in favor of the ban -- so I think we should give them about 50 argument against the ban. That is a very doable # --- I know of at least 4 arguments already in against the ban -- mine will go in tomorrow. I will not be able to sign up for the video/phone conference but know that the chances of being called to testify are very slim ( anyone that does sign up should have a good idea of what they will say prepared ahead of time). This is just the first in a series of battles this year, a strong showing here might go a long ways toward keeping our pursuits down the line. Sounds like the meeting will only take about 1/2 hour. I am encouraging all of my farm customers to assist in this (most that i have talked to haven't even heard about it). If you are in contact with a farmer mention it to them.

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This will add a lot of burden to farmers who have nuisance beaver issues. If it passes it will be up to the game commission to write up requirements to be met to take out problem beaver. They may well be asking farmers to exhaust non-lethal measures first, which would be not only expensive but will be very frustrating when a guy sees his young filbert trees getting mowed down nightly.

And that helps coho salmon how? Crazy.


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Re: Oregon trappers -- HB2844 [Re: H2ORat] #7219407
03/18/21 12:40 AM
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Got my written testimony posted today -- I won't be available tomorrow to be live at 3:15. Anyone else posted or planning on attending via comp or phone.

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03/18/21 12:09 PM
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Sent my opposition to this bill. See if reason prevails.

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